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OT: Was Randy Moss better than Jerry “Sticky Fingers” Rice?

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Froob, Aug 7, 2018.

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Moss or Rice?

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  1. Off The Grid

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    Wait...what??? o_O

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    I think that you're trying to say "more talented"...not "better". [​IMG]
     
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    Rice being the greatest will always have an asterik after he openly talked about using stickum his whole career.
     
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    Better means "more good" which translates to the same thing. Greatness has always been a "prestige/career" measurement.
     
  5. Off The Grid

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    I don't cringe. I laugh.

    Anyone who believes that Rodgers is better than Brady is a a drooling idiot.

    They're not even in the same ballpark.

    Well...every 4 years. :p
     
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    Yes but so did many others. Just like OL'm would spray sh it on them so it would be tougher to get hands on them .

    Have you ever felt one of the gloves WRS use nowadays?
     
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    Tainted Joe and Sticky Rice will always be cheaters. They cheated. Its simple. Silicon, Stickum, you name it. They are frauds.

    If TB is going to be destroyed for allegedly knowing about cold footballs losing pressure than Sticky and Tainted are going to suffer the same fate.

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    Yes but only complete morons believe Brady/Pat's are cheaters. Same for Rice & co.
     
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    Wrong. The gutters are littered with talented failures. [​IMG]

    "Talented", in no galaxy, translates to "more good." :rolleyes: You are mistaken.

    You said that one was "better" and that the other was "greater".

    I'm sorry, but that's an idiotic thing to say, my friend.

    Just dump it and move forward, I'd advise.
     
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    stickum was actually against the rules. playing in the cold isnt.
     
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    It’s the same thing as the Gronk vs Gonzo argument. One is an elite level athlete that was so dedicated he perfected his craft at the position to blow by his peers and accumulate all the records and the other was a freak of nature in dominance
     
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    No I made a mistaken assumption within a correct argument.
     
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    I'm not going to keep explaining the context of the two words. You and Epically Stupid Andy asked me to explain the difference in the two, and I did. I can't understand it for you. It's a fairly simple concept.
     
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    No football fans do not generally use better and greater to mean 2 different things that’s the exact problem, you made that up for some unknown reason.
    But if you want to believe Aaron Rodgers is better than Tom Brady then go ahead and I’ll laugh.

    bet·ter1
    ˈbedər/
    adjective
    1. 1.
      of a more excellent or effective type or quality.
      "hoping for better weather"
      synonyms: superior, finer, of higher quality;More

      great
      ɡrāt/
      adjective
      comparative adjective: greater
      1. 1.
        of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average.
        "the article was of great interest"
        synonyms: considerable, substantial, significant, appreciable, special, serious; More
        exceptional, extraordinary
        "they showed great interest"


     
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    It’s not a simple concept at all. You are misusing words and claiming people who don’t understand the definition you made up are stupid.
    As I said your post was epically stupid and you are now flailing in the quicksand
     
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    Of course.
    Moss could have, maybe should have been better than Rice. But he wasn’t.
    It’s hard to say the second best WR ever underachieved but when you compare him to Rice, Rice worked him under the table to become a better player.
    Coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn’t matter, your body of work on the field is what matters.
     
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    Yes, football fans generally can differentiate between better and greater. If you ask people "Who's better, Rodgers or Brady?" most people outside of Patsfans.com will probably answer with Rodgers for now, Brady overall. Because better is just (typically; sometimes you have to define the context like I had to do to you, Epically Stupid Andy) a measure of "how good." From a pure throwing perspective and athleticism, Rodgers is probably "better." From an overall career standpoint, Brady is definitely "greater." There's a reason they're called All-Time Greats and not All-Time Bests or All-Time Goods. If you have never heard that in a debate to define why someone is saying what they're saying, it's best to ask, like you did. Then use those standards and make your own conclusions. Not say "lol ur stupid" and piss all over the other person's shoes.
     
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    It's not misusing words at all. I've used those exact words in this exact same type of debate before with countless other fans who get the concept. Just because you can't grasp this simple concept doesn't mean I'm stupid. If you'd like, to make it easier, we can arrange a time to discuss this in person so I can draw it out for you with crayons. Maybe that'll help you understand it better Epically Stupid Andy
     
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    Gronk doesn't perfect his craft? If he didn't do that here he would have been released.
     
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    I didn’t say you were stupid I said your post was. I would never call someone stupid on a message board but I will call a post stupid.
    Of course you choose to go for personal attacks when someone disagrees with you apparently.

    There is nothing to explain. You want to make up definitions or words that don’t exist then lie and say it’s an accepted definition.
    There is nothing to explain other than explaining that you misspoke and should have explained what you were trying to say (which evidently is something I agree with, which is that moss had the potential to be better but never realized it) rather than misuse words then act like the person who points out your error is wrong.

    Perhaps you should cut back on the caffeine.
     

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