OT: Roethlisberger not exactly a gentleman on the night of the incident

[VJCPatriot]

So he's guilty of taking a photo with her and calling her a bad name? Why don't we throw the book at him for crying out loud!

If that's ALL she has then she's got NOTHING. Hitting on women isn't a crime, unless you're LITERALLY hitting them!

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

There are so many things wrong with your post that I don't even know where to start. So let's just go through item-by-item



Feel free to point out where anyone in this thread said anything about due process in regards to the actual topic of the thread.

By the way, you're talking about a completely different woman than the one who you started the thread about. The woman who Roethlisberger supposedly swore at and the one who he allegedly assaulted are completely different people. The fact that you're using them interchangeably just shows, yet again, that you have no idea what you're talking about.



That's not what this thread is about in the first place. This thread is about some other woman saying that Roethlisberger called her a mean name. You should know, since you started it.



Roethlisberger is on trial? That's news to me; when did it start?



Once again, wrong thread. You're talking about the assault, and there's already a thread for that, in which pretty much everyone agrees that the evidence isn't looking good for Big Ben.

The 'report' that you linked is what we're talking about here, and you've made the enormous (and stupid) leap that everyone's who is skeptical and/or doesn't care about the woman in your report is also skeptical that the assault occurred.



Pretty much everyone has agreed, from the time that it was first reported, that things didn't look great for Ben. This has only become more true as more evidence has come to light.

If you wonder why people are treating you like you're naive/ignorant... well, it's because you are. You've repeatedly used the assault and the alleged harassment interchangeably, despite them being two separate incidents. In my case, I questioned the credibility of the woman who claimed to be harassed by Roethlisberger, and you somehow took that to mean that was assuming that he was innocent of assaulting a completely different woman at a completely different time. You're all over the place, and clearly have no idea what you're talking about on a number of levels.

People get so worked up because they were insulted by someone else. You must be very hurt. I just see things and comment on them rather than targeting someone who disagreed with me and making them trying to look stupid. I don't feel any better or smarter by stooping to your level. There is nothing worse than the broken up thread point-by-point proving how smart you are and how dumb someone else is. Most people realize how childish it is.

Apparently you again don't see the relevance of a woman who claimed Ben was acting aggressively, horny and disrespectful on the same night of the incident, although clearly Ben's defense team sees the relevance of painting a picture that he was calm and "mingling." I have clearly separated my opinion on why this is relevant, and why the witness should not automatically be discredited, from the most recent post based on new information from the assault. If you have an axe to grind with me, you can point out all of my "contradictions." The sad thing is, I can tell you are intelligent and you can see that I am talking about two different things, but your desire to belittle me is more important to you. You know, for example, that I'm aware there are two separate women here, but you'd rather pretend like you don't to try to make me look stupid. That's pathetic. Again, you must be very sensitive.

Nope, no one has treated me like I am ignorant or all-over-the-place. Probably because there have been several separate stories about this incident; threads are not limited to their original topic. You are clearly just saying that to appeal to the bandwagon, and that's sad.

Do you feel like a big man now?

 

[Joker]

So he's guilty of taking a photo with her and calling her a bad name? Why don't we throw the book at him for crying out loud!

If that's ALL she has then she's got NOTHING. Hitting on women isn't a crime, unless you're LITERALLY hitting them!

..yeah...that's the ticket!..

 

[Kontradiction]

This is obviously karma for Steelers fans cheering Brady's injury on that dark day in September 2008.

 

[eagle eye]

People get so worked up because they were insulted by someone else. You must be very hurt. I just see things and comment on them rather than targeting someone who disagreed with me and making them trying to look stupid. I don't feel any better or smarter by stooping to your level. There is nothing worse than the broken up thread point-by-point proving how smart you are and how dumb someone else is. Most people realize how childish it is.

Apparently you again don't see the relevance of a woman who claimed Ben was acting aggressively, horny and disrespectful on the same night of the incident, although clearly Ben's defense team sees the relevance of painting a picture that he was calm and "mingling." I have clearly separated my opinion on why this is relevant, and why the witness should not automatically be discredited, from the most recent post based on new information from the assault. If you have an axe to grind with me, you can point out all of my "contradictions." The sad thing is, I can tell you are intelligent and you can see that I am talking about two different things, but your desire to belittle me is more important to you. Again, you must be very sensitive.

Nope, no one has treated me like I am ignorant or all-over-the-place. Probably because there have been several separate stories about this incident. You are clearly just saying that to appeal to the bandwagon. People that do that are sad.

And wtf has this got to do with football?

Shouldn't this be discussed in a wannabe cop forum? or a sex crimes forum?

Why is this on the front page of patsfans.com?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

And wtf has this got to do with football?

Shouldn't this be discussed in a wannabe cop forum? or a sex crimes forum?

Why is this on the front page of patsfans.com?

There aren't 30 other threads on the page for you to click on? Obviously this thread is getting a lot of Patriots fans interested in talking about something. Does it really bother you that much that this thread is on the front page... does it prevent you from seeing all the other threads? Or do you just need to show everyone how petty they are for talking about gossip?

 

[eagle eye]

There aren't 30 other threads on the page for you to click on? Obviously this thread is getting a lot of Patriots fans interested in talking about something. Does it really bother you that much that this thread is on the front page... does it prevent you from seeing all the other threads? Or do you just need to show everyone how petty they are for talking about gossip?

1/4 of all posts have been made by you and upstater.

 

[Kontradiction]

And wtf has this got to do with football?

Shouldn't this be discussed in a wannabe cop forum? or a sex crimes forum?

Why is this on the front page of patsfans.com?

One would think that it's pretty easy to not click on a thread if you aren't interested in it, but I guess not.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

1/4 of all posts have been made by you and upstater.

There are 78 posts right now in this thread. That would be almost 20 posts by me or upstarter. First, you're probably just making that number up to feel better. Second, even if correct, that makes around 60 posts by others. If you don't like the thread, why do you keep pointing out that you don't like it? No one needs your permission to talk about a subject.

 

[eagle eye]

There are 78 posts right now in this thread. That would be almost 20 posts by me or upstarter. First, you're probably just making that number up to feel better. Second, even if correct, that makes around 60 posts by others. If you don't like the thread, why do you keep pointing out that you don't like it? No one needs your permission to talk about a subject.

Well done detective, the post you said was 78 is 68, the number of the post is on the top left of the post when you look at it. You now have 8 posts in the thread, Upstater has 9 and thats 1/4 of the posts prior to this one.

I have 5 and three of them are just being annoyed that this thread exists.

 

[Kontradiction]

Excuse me, but could you guys do something to make this flame war more entertaining? Thanks.

 

[Frezo]

Excuse me, but could you guys do something to make this flame war more entertaining? Thanks.

HAHAHA!! That was excellent. It is becoming a yawner.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Well done detective, the post you said was 78 is 68, the number of the post is on the top left of the post when you look at it. You now have 8 posts in the thread, Upstater has 9 and thats 1/4 of the posts prior to this one.

I have 5 and three of them are just being annoyed that this thread exists.

Okay, so I was off on the number. Are you that bored that you need to pester everyone by continually pointing out the illegitimacy of this thread? Fine, you're right. It is all me and upstater. This thread should not be here. You win. I guess there's no reason for you to be post here now, and if you post again we can all just agree that you're a bored, frustrated, vindictive little girl with nothing better to do?

 

[BradyFTW!]

You know, for example, that I'm aware there are two separate women here, but you'd rather pretend like you don't to try to make me look stupid. That's pathetic. Again, you must be very sensitive.

Since you apparently can tell the difference, how about you go and point out where anyone actually 'defended' BR against the assault allegations. Trust me, I'd much rather that you had the basic intelligence to separate the two issues. If you did, you wouldn't have started such a pointless thread in the first place.

 

[upstater1]

So he's guilty of taking a photo with her and calling her a bad name? Why don't we throw the book at him for crying out loud!

If that's ALL she has then she's got NOTHING. Hitting on women isn't a crime, unless you're LITERALLY hitting them!

Way to totally distort what's been said.

 

[upstater1]

wtf does any of this have to do with the alleged assault?

If you're saying that he is more likely to assault a woman because he called a completely different woman a *****, then that's dumb. If you're not saying that, then whats the point of this thread in the first place?

You don't know half of what you think you know. You act like people are getting info about what Ben is like from the media. I know I'm not. I know I'm on [pretty solid ground in saying this guy treats women like dirt. A guy who who curse a woman because she turned down his blunt overtures for sex--just because she took a picture with him--is not a guy who has respect for women. That's been established already. I know it. You may not know it. and a guy who has little respect for women is likelier to do the sort of things that he's accused of doing.

 

[upstater1]

Since you apparently can tell the difference, how about you go and point out where anyone actually 'defended' BR against the assault allegations. Trust me, I'd much rather that you had the basic intelligence to separate the two issues. If you did, you wouldn't have started such a pointless thread in the first place.

did you even read the thread? Man, lots of knee-jerk assumptions about this gold-digging slut.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Not sure if this is the place for updates about the situation since it's become a pissing ground over the value/merit of corroberative witness observations...but since it remains the page one Roethlisberger thread...

Apparently regardless of the outcome of this case, Ben is in some pretty deep doo doo with the people who write his seven figure checks.

Big Ben could be down to his last chance in Pittsburgh | ProFootballTalk.com

I still contend that Cowher saw the on and off field handwriting on the wall with this dolt and that influenced his decision to take a sabatical. Wisenhut did too, and saw the organization taking a side that made his move to AZ necessary. Sometimes coaches are enablers, but they always know on some level what they're dealing with...

 

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

You know BB could learn a lot from a kid on the ice in his home town.

Keep your private life private....it's really that simple. Control people and situations and protect playing the game you love...

 

[BradyManny]

I've been saying for sometime that this guy is a sleazebag. As I've said before, I know a couple people who interacted with him first hand, and came away with the same impression that seemingly everyone else does - he's a dirtbag. Zo was on 98.5 yesterday talking about how his friends back in Pittsburgh say the same thing about him.

I'm very thankful we have a franchise QB who seems to be just about the exact opposite type of person as Roethlisberger. I hate to pull an LdT and use the word classy, but Brady is a classy guy, and it makes it easier to root for him.

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but the "she slipped and fell" defense is not going to play well in the court of public opinion. At the very worst, this guy is guilty of being a complete a**hole and having no respect for the opposite sex. And if people think that has no practical implications, just look at how Tiger Woods' image and endorsements fell off.