OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The Bucs front 7 dominated the game. Dominated. -1 yards rushing, 17 points allowed despite a practice squad secondary. Forced two turnovers (three, really.). Vea, Tryon, and White were on another level.

 

[Deus Irae]

We used to celebrate winning ugly on the road in primetime.

Patriots fans spend all year saying that every other team sucks, that no other team's wins are good enough, and that the Patriots are just X number of plays away from being undefeated. And, Patriots fans think that every other team's uninspiring win is proof that they suck, while every Patriots uninspiring win is proof that the team is gritty and fighting.

Having Brady as the difference maker for almost 20 years has completely changed the fan base in that sense.

 

[Deus Irae]

The Bucs front 7 dominated the game. Dominated. -1 yards rushing, 17 points allowed despite a practice squad secondary. Forced two turnovers (three, really.). Vea, Tryon, and White were on another level.

And that was without JPP

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Patriots fans spend all year saying that every other team sucks, that no other team's wins are good enough, and that the Patriots are just X number of plays away from being undefeated. And, Patriots fans think that every other team's uninspiring win is proof that they suck, while every Patriots uninspiring win is proof that the team is gritty and fighting.

Having Brady as the difference maker for almost 20 years has completely changed the fan base in that sense.

Never thought I’d see the day.

 

[Kontradiction]

And that was without JPP

A fully healthy Bucs squad probably curb stomps the Patriots last night.

EDIT: Congrats on busting out of jail, by the way.

 

[RicoG]

I gotta tell ya after the way they handled LA yesterday, I am starting to believe in them. Very impressive.

The Cards still have to face and beat the Seahawks to be the legit team in that division.

 

[VectorPrime]

How has everyone forgotten about that clear gift from the refs when they reversed Meyers obvious fumble? It was the first quarter and in his own red zone. Bucs might have blown it open early.

 

[Kontradiction]

The Cards still have to face and beat the Seahawks to be the legit team in that division.

They’ll trash the Seahawks if they’re healthy.

 

[Deus Irae]

A fully healthy Bucs squad probably curb stomps the Patriots last night.

EDIT: Congrats on busting out of jail, by the way.

If the officiating hadn't been as bad as it was, the Patriots lose by about 14.


Game changing blown calls (yes, there were bad calls on both sides, but these were huge):

Calling Meyers' fumble a non-fumble
Hands to the face call against Smith
Not calling the false start on Wynn
The O.P.I. call on Evans when Jackson had him in a bear hug
That ridiculous P.I. call over the middle at the end of the game

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

If the officiating hadn't been as bad as it was, the Patriots lose by about 14.


Game changing blown calls (yes, there were bad calls on both sides, but these were huge):

Calling Meyers' fumble a non-fumble
Hands to the face call against Smith
Not calling the false start on Wynn
The O.P.I. call on Evans when Jackson had him in a bear hug
That ridiculous P.I. call over the middle at the end of the game

Agree…the overturned fumble was baffling. The PI call against Whitehead was really bad.

The PI against Sherman to extend the first half TD drive was also very questionable.

 

[Tottie]

Agree…the overturned fumble was baffling. The PI call against Whitehead was really bad.

The PI against Sherman to extend the first half TD drive was also very questionable.

I saw the fumble and had to step out and when I got back I was shocked. They did they explain anything? I can't imagine how that got overturned it was very clear.

 

[Deus Irae]

From NFL Now: #Dolphins WR Will Fuller broke a finger in Sunday’s loss and is expected to be week-to-week, sources say. More bad news after a rough day.

 

[Deus Irae]

With Jackson being allowed to mug Evans, Howard still not really game ready, and Brate having a suck game, was Gronk missed?

We knew Bucs' red-zone-ish offense struggled last night, but this bad? Tom Brady last night from Patriots' 30-yard line and deeper: 3-for-16 for 30 yards. More than half the yards came on an 18-yard throw to Cam Brate. Six Bucs drives to 30 or deeper, one TD, four field goals.

They weren't ideal conditions, absolutely, but it was also raining when the Bucs weren't inside the 30. Here are the two Tom Bradys from last night: Ball outside Patriots' 30: 19-for-27, 239 yards Ball at Patriots' 30 or better: 3-for-16, 30 yards

You be the judge

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I saw the fumble and had to step out and when I got back I was shocked. They did they explain anything? I can't imagine how that got overturned it was very clear.

No explanation.

 

[Guts]

We used to celebrate winning ugly on the road in primetime.

We celebrating losses now

 

[Tottie]

No explanation.

Officiating has been bad this year from my point of view. For instance, the delay of game in Detroit being deemed 'subjective' after the fact. A team won a game based on that call. How is that not fixable in real time and why do they insist on not doing so. Maybe they need to invest in impartial AI technology to make calls because if that wasn't a fumble last night I'm assuming they used the 'football move' clause which is ridiculous and basically simply gives them leeway to do whatever they want.

 

[Deus Irae]

BTW, just a quick note on the issue of "luck" (specific to last night, not to the overall point made by the poster earlier):


Opening kickoff ends up just out of bounds, giving the Patriots a great starting position to begin the game. On the other end, the ball nicks the pylon, meaning what could have been first and ten from inside the one ended up as a touchback, with the Patriots getting the ball at the twenty.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Bucs no longer need to trade a high pick for Gilmore as they showed that a defensive backfield of recent Walmart employees can win.

 

[Deus Irae]

Interesting projection note, based upon the (far too early in the season) analysis of teams at the sorta quarter pole:


Tom Brady is going to finish the season still never having been the starting QB in a game where his team has already been eliminated before game time. Meanwhile, Belichick is goign to coach his 4th non-playoff season in 4 non-Brady seasons as the Patriots head coach.

 

[Kontradiction]

Interesting projection note, based upon the (far too early in the season) analysis of teams at the sorta quarter pole:


Tom Brady is going to finish the season still never having been the starting QB in a game where his team has already been eliminated before game time. Meanwhile, Belichick is goign to coach his 4th non-playoff season in 4 non-Brady seasons as the Patriots head coach.

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