OT: Did the Bucs SB loss Break Patrick Mahomes?

[‘Mondre]

out of your mind if you think Brady’s over Jordan. Ignorant.

While I'm admittedly 100% biased

Yea we know.

 

[Bruins29]

out of your mind if you think Brady’s over Jordan. Ignorant.


Yea we know.

Why? Brady is clearly over Jordan. More championships. Just as clutch if not more. Did it all with less talent than Jordan had. Jordan had consistent players not just talent around him. Bradys longevity destroys Jordans. Brady won with 2 different teams.

Brady is 1st in his league with championships. Jordan is 10th in his.

Jordan is awesome but he got to beat up on a lot of expansion teams and never beat the top NBA guys in their prime. Plus Jordan couldn't get into the playoffs at the end of his career and had losing records, something Brady never had.

In Brady's 22 year career he never played an NFL game where he was not still in contention for the SB.

 

[Bruins29]

out of your mind if you think Brady’s over Jordan. Ignorant.


Yea we know.

BTW Isnt that an ad hominem?

 

[amfootball]

Why? Brady is clearly over Jordan. More championships. Just as clutch if not more. Did it all with less talent than Jordan had. Jordan had consistent players not just talent around him. Bradys longevity destroys Jordans. Brady won with 2 different teams.

Brady is 1st in his league with championships. Jordan is 10th in his.

Jordan is awesome but he got to beat up on a lot of expansion teams and never beat the top NBA guys in their prime. Plus Jordan couldn't get into the playoffs at the end of his career and had losing records, something Brady never had.

In Brady's 22 year career he never played an NFL game where he was not still in contention for the SB.

Agree 100 percent.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Why? Brady is clearly over Jordan. More championships. Just as clutch if not more. Did it all with less talent than Jordan had. Jordan had consistent players not just talent around him. Bradys longevity destroys Jordans. Brady won with 2 different teams.

Brady is 1st in his league with championships. Jordan is 10th in his.

Jordan is awesome but he got to beat up on a lot of expansion teams and never beat the top NBA guys in their prime. Plus Jordan couldn't get into the playoffs at the end of his career and had losing records, something Brady never had.

In Brady's 22 year career he never played an NFL game where he was not still in contention for the SB.

Jordan had to play both offense and defense. And if it weren't for his dad's death, the Bulls would have won 8 in a row. Brady made mistakes in big moments (strip sack vs Eagles, 2 INTs vs Seahawks, intentional grounding vs Giants, etc). I don't recall Jordan making any major mistakes in the NBA finals. Clutchness edge goes to Jordan in a big way - 6 championships, 6 Finals MVPs, 5 League MVPs.

According to most americans, Brady is ranked 17th greatest of all time - and this was a study done AFTER winning the SB last year. Basketball players dominated this study.

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[VectorPrime]

The NBA is also a league that literally encourages dynasties. 6 championships in 8 years during the modern era is arguably the most impressive one but literally every decade has one and sometimes two. Freaking Lakers had a 5 title dynasty immediately before AND after the Bulls run of 6 titles. And btw Jordan gets zero credit for being undefeated in the Finals. Just means he lost earlier. Kareem won 6 and I believe got to either 1 or 2 more. Magic won 5 and got to 2 more. Kobe won 5 got to 2 more. Duncan won 5 got to 1 more. Unfortunately they didn’t all get to play the Utah Jazz in the Finals.

 

[Bruins29]

Jordan had to play both offense and defense. And if it weren't for his dad's death, the Bulls would have won 8 in a row. Brady made mistakes in big moments (strip sack vs Eagles, 2 INTs vs Seahawks, intentional grounding vs Giants, etc). I don't recall Jordan making any major mistakes in the NBA finals. Clutchness edge goes to Jordan in a big way - 6 championships, 6 Finals MVPs, 5 League MVPs.

According to most americans, Brady is ranked 17th greatest of all time - and this was a study done AFTER winning the SB last year. Basketball players dominated this study.

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Yes, America, There is a unbiased bunch of people. I mean its not like most of America hated Tom Brady and that was even before all the deflate gate nonsense which made people hate him more.

Jordan has always been one of the most beloved athletes. But this isnt about popularity. It certainly isnt about what Jordan "could have done" which tells me that obviously Brady's career was better or you wouldnt need to go there.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Yes, America, There is a unbiased bunch of people. I mean its not like most of America hated Tom Brady and that was even before all the deflate gate nonsense which made people hate him more.

Jordan has always been one of the most beloved athletes. But this isnt about popularity. It certainly isnt about what Jordan "could have done" which tells me that obviously Brady's career was better or you wouldnt need to go there.

I am just telling you what people in this country are thinking based on one study. According to this study, even winning 7 super bowls by itself does not guarantee you to be the greatest athlete in US history. And no, Brady's career obviously wasn't better. They were both outstanding. And again, Jordan had to play both offense and defense. He won 6 titles in 8 years. It took Brady 22 years to win 7. Just think about that.

Our data shows racking up Super Bowl rings is no guarantee of G.O.A.T status among football fans. While seven-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady is seen by a majority of football fans to be the G.O.A.T among football players, the multi-sport phenom Jim Thorpe from the turn of the 20th century still bested the modern-day quarterback legend. Joe Montana, Jim Brown and Jerry Rice make up the remaining top-five players among football fans in our survey.

 

[VectorPrime]

Jordan will forever have the mystique of that 2 season retirement/secret suspension because everyone will always wonder if he could have won 8 in a row. And I say absolutely not, the strain and burnout would have set in far earlier than the 97-98 season where things finally gave way.

 

[Joker]

out of your mind if you think Brady’s over Jordan. Ignorant.


Yea we know.

WTF are you babbling about? Are you a mongoloid or what? When have I EVER printed this anywhere? The answer is NEVER you obtuse freakazoid sub-moron. SEEK LIFE ELSWHERE YOU TROLL POS

 

[Bruins29]

I am just telling you what people in this country are thinking based on one study. According to this study, even winning 7 super bowls by itself does not guarantee you to be the greatest athlete in US history. And no Brady's career obviously wasn't better. They were both outstanding. And again, Jordan had to play both offense and defense, which Brady obviously didn't have to do. He won 3 titles in a row TWICE. He is the GOAT among GOATs in my view.

Well to be fair they are asking about athlete. Is Brady really that great of an "athlete.? Of course Jordan was a better athlete than Brady. He could run faster, jump higher, better conditioned etc.

And? so what

I cant see the article but if its alhlete - we are talking about Thorpe and Phelps and Carl Lewis. Thats all great but that was not what this was about.

Lets not confuse athlete (athletic ability) with greatest career of team sport player. Wow, we are really moving the goalposts here.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Well to be fair they are asking about athlete. Is Brady really that great of an "athlete.? Of course Jordan was a better athlete than Brady. He could run faster, jump higher, better conditioned etc.

And? so what

I cant see the article but if its alhlete - we are talking about Thorpe and Phelps and Carl Lewis. Thats all great but that was not what this was about.

Lets not confuse athlete (athletic ability) with greatest career of team sport player. Wow, we are really moving the goalposts here.

I mean Babe Ruth wasn’t exactly an “athlete” either…dude was pudgy and I’m sure he had his share of burgers, etc or whatever they ate in the 1920s

 

[TheRainMaker]

Jordan had to play both offense and defense. And if it weren't for his dad's death, the Bulls would have won 8 in a row. Brady made mistakes in big moments (strip sack vs Eagles, 2 INTs vs Seahawks, intentional grounding vs Giants, etc). I don't recall Jordan making any major mistakes in the NBA finals. Clutchness edge goes to Jordan in a big way - 6 championships, 6 Finals MVPs, 5 League MVPs.

I don’t like comparing Athletes in other sports as NBA players have more control in games than NFL players.

Unfortunately they didn’t all get to play the Utah Jazz in the Finals.

Before the Lakers won the lottery and landed Phil Jackson, the Jazz were their Daddy’s. That quickly ended with good coaching and the Jazz age finally catching up to them.

And I say absolutely not, the strain and burnout would have set in far earlier than the 97-98 season where things finally gave way.

I think they easily win in the lockout year. They would’ve beaten the Spurs handily.

 

[amfootball]

Well to be fair they are asking about athlete. Is Brady really that great of an "athlete.? Of course Jordan was a better athlete than Brady. He could run faster, jump higher, better conditioned etc.

And? so what

I cant see the article but if its alhlete - we are talking about Thorpe and Phelps and Carl Lewis. Thats all great but that was not what this was about.

Lets not confuse athlete (athletic ability) with greatest career of team sport player. Wow, we are really moving the goalposts here.

I would also add the quarterback Is the most difficult position in all of sports.

 

[VectorPrime]

I don’t like comparing Athletes in other sports as NBA players have more control in games than NFL players.

Before the Lakers won the lottery and landed Phil Jackson, the Jazz were their Daddy’s. That quickly ended with good coaching and the Jazz age finally catching up to them.

I think they easily win in the lockout year. They would’ve beaten the Spurs handily.

I meant 94-95. In 99 Jordan cut his thumb off at a gambling table so no they don’t.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

WTF are you babbling about? Are you a mongoloid or what? When have I EVER printed this anywhere? The answer is NEVER you obtuse freakazoid sub-moron. SEEK LIFE ELSWHERE YOU TROLL POS

Just got this PM from Joker. I hope the old guy meant it for someone else, BB style.

 

[Tunescribe]

Chiefs window is wide open as long as he's QB.

What if he falls out of it? What will they do then? We already know he's hooked on vodka and Red Bull, better keep him out of buildings with elevators.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Both players won 4 lombardis in their first 16 years in the NFL and 3 super bowl MVPs along with two regular season MVPs. Montana then retired. Brady kept going because he was able to.

Fine, they were neck and neck through 4 superbowls. How'd Joe do in his 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th superbowls?

 

[PatsWSB47]

How did this thread become Brady vs Montana? And yes, last years Super Bowl did kind of break Mahoney. Yhe Tampa defense last year did a great job of staying away from single high safeties because that’s an open invitation to let Hill run around and catch 40 yard passes. So they played a high safety to the side Hill lined up on and used a safety just a little deep to Kelsey’s side who watched both Kelsey and kept an eye on Hill running deep crossing routes. They rushed 4 and generally kept Mahoney in the pocket. Frustrated the hell out of Mahoney. This years O-line was better, and Mahomes did a much better job of taking what was there underneath, but he really does not want to play that way. He’s much better when Hill can run free for a couple huge gains and seemed to crumble last week when that wasn’t working in the second half.

MAC10 has a need to diminish Brady at every opportunity. .....came out of nowhere to do it in this one. I voted "no" in the poll. Mahomes will answer

 

[‘Mondre]

WTF are you babbling about? Are you a mongoloid or what? When have I EVER printed this anywhere? The answer is NEVER you obtuse freakazoid sub-moron. SEEK LIFE ELSWHERE YOU TROLL POS

Stfu ***** you sound mad.

Happy to trigger you for the day.

Wtf is a mongoloid that **** sounds racist.