wistahpatsfan
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scout said:Oh man, I really didn't want to get into this, but, ...
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scout said:Oh man, I really didn't want to get into this, but, actually the priest is God in confession.
3 to be 4 said:I cant seem to find that in the Bible.
Clonamery said:3tob4:
"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves (Matt. 7:15).
What the ?? this post is more of a note to the whole board and not directed at one person.
If I think im reading what you are saying correctly..........While I am flattered you see me as trying to be or something, it just astonishes me how a lot of you or so DETERMINED to not be open to anything concerning the Bible or ************, that you instead, turn this into "lets all make this all about a referendum on 3 to be 4"
its a marvelous strategy, one the Republicans used to win Presidential elections in 1988 and 2004.
You have no answers for the Old Testament reasons to believe in ************. There are no answers to my question about the first commandment.
No thoughtful discussion regarding the divinity of ************.
So instead, its been all about what kind of person 3 to be 4 is. You see? He lies. He makes mistakes. He must be wrong!!!! As if the only people who are right about God are wonderful, perfect, people??? hardly.
We all have sin. Everyone has sin. Everyone has lied and are therefore liars, etc etc etc etc
what good is it to be right about whether you are better than me if you goof up on the biggest decision of your life?
Dont be flip about God. Think about where you stand with God. Think about the big picture. The Bible has been authenicated more than any book in history. Its prophesies have come true consistantly. ************ fulfilled over 300 of them, a mathematical mind blower if there ever was one.
Are his people flawed? You bet they are. But He is not. His love and His forgiveness know no end.
This isnt about youtube videos or who lied about what or who slandered who, its about ************ being the way, the truth, and the life.
Its about accepting ************ as your Lord and Savior. And reading His Word, the Bible. And when you stumble, going back to Him for daily forgiveness and guidance.
It sure is better to have Salvation with ************ and be flawed, which we all are anyway, than to seperated from Him, and go about your life thinking all is swell and good because of how "good" you are, or how rich you are, or what relationship you are in, or who you can get to agree with you on a chat board.
Its perfectly fine to think anything you want about me, but it would be tragic if you let the forces of those who do not accept Christ influence you to reject Him based on their ability to make this all about a guy like me.
the ravenous wolves have indeed come and devoured. And I do understand why they did so and I forgive them as I hope they forgive me.
I assure you all my motives were only this: ************ didnt command his followers to sit quiet. Salvation is literally life and death. And my desire was to offer up an option that is not talked much about in New England.
Its not ME, its not MY way. Its His way. I havent once said anything about Jesus that isnt in the Bible.
Where i strayed in my flawnessness was getting baited into things and then acting out of my own flawnessness, the same one you all have.
the difference is I know where ive erred and I know that Im forgiven. I hope you have that same security of knowing the love and forgiveness of ************.
I take back nothing ive said about the Bible and about the Lord.
I sure hope you respond to God. Dont waste your time once again, responding to me. Or else you've missed the whole point.
with that im backing off, which will make many of you happy. I just think it at this point that peace is needed and my wish is for you all to consider, not what I say, but what the Bible says. Seek out the Lord, with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.
Please think about the question i posed regarding the First Commandment. Give God his rightful place. Give Him what is Right, not what is left.
Peace be with you all.
************ loves you.
wistahpatsfan said:I am without sin.
....No, really!
Nikki said:The simple fact that you have NO CLUE that I, as a Catholic, must go to confession with my Priest, to confess my sins and ask for forgiveness from God, pretty much says to me that you don't care about any other religion than what you are spouting off about whatever jacked-up form of "born-again" Christianity you are following.
I can see from your last 2 posts, you have NO CLUE about any other religious teachings other than "Preacher YouTube".
I think I will stick with the Roman Catholic Religion since it has been around a little bit longer than YouTube has been.
But keeping posting your links...............eventually you will find some poor soul who really IS looking for salvation and he/she will stumble upon your YouTube links and you will have another follower of whatever it is that you are preaching/teaching.
Nikki said:CPF.......Hey! Just saw your post in another thread that you posted me a question here, so I am just reading this now. And will try to reply the best that I can.
I spent 10 years from the age of 6 to the age of 16 going to CCD classes every Sunday. I made my first Communion, and then my Confirmation when I was 16. I taught CCD classes for my Church for 3 years from the age of 18 to 21.
Unfortunately, I am not the perfect model Catholic citizen. I am Pro-Choice.....which as you might know is a big no-no for a Catholic. I also believe that woman should be allowed to take BCP, another no-no. I also struggle with the fact that if an infant should die at birth or before it is baptized, does not go to Heaven, but remains in purgatory because his/her original sin was not forgiven before death.
So because of all of these reasons, do I not feel as though I am devoted enough to the Catholic religion to be out here on a daily basis "recruiting" others to be Catholic.
I can only do the best that I can in my religion, which is going to Church to listen to Mass (and I will admit I do not make it there every week), go to confession with my Priest, and to try and live my life the best way that I can according to everything I was taught. I am in no way perfect, but I don't claim to be.
Not sure if that answered any of questions, but I did the best I could for a Monday morning
scout said:CPF, Nikki, mind if I tag on to this thread? I am also Catholic, had been away from the church for a number of years and started going back a few years ago. Actually, a major reason for my re-entry was because I wanted my girls to be baptised Catholics, and brought up as Catholics. Thankfully, I attended a Catholic Church that was as liberal as the "law" would allow. As I too, don't totally agree with all the Catholic preachings. I think all religions have their quirks and are hypocritical in some aspects. But, I was raised Catholic and there is a sense of pride in that, along with the guilt. I need to go to confession.......but that's another story.
3 to be 4 said:http://www.parentalguide.com/Documen...t_of_jesus.htm
what a great link this is. check out the first few paragraphs. Pretty much answers so much of the misconceptions out there. And note the listing of rational scriptural reasoning. Its not a demand of anyone. Its not a forced doctrine. its simply a link of reasons. Dont like it, then reject it.
but dont let someone elses fear and hatred tell you this anything "horrible" or "threatening"
be your own judge. I just love the Lord. Isnt He great?
shmessy said:People who have fear and hatred tend to drop F-Bombs on others.
3 to be 4 said:please forgive my swearing at you.
isnt God wonderful? I know you can say it.
Nikki said:3tobe4.......I see your self-imposed hiatus is over.
Yes, everybody, im a work in progress. But there is one who is perfect and loves me and loves you. thats ************. And while people may change from day to day He never does.
CPF said:Well said 3toB, welcome back brother. Take care, CPF