NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION OFFICIAL Super Bowl Bucs/Chiefs Game Thread

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Yea but I had them losing unlike you who had them winning. Plus I let myself be convinced by guys on this forum they had the better coaching. Lmao

I picked Tampa to win it all and then bailed on them against the Saints and Chiefs



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[venecol]

I picked Tampa to win it all and then bailed on them against the Saints and Chiefs

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I mean, so did everyone else. They surprised everyone.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Okie

 

[carmelo15]

 

[Biffins]

Oh man...don’t start. Just for that I’m going to call on an expert panel to discuss.

@Biffins
@crawhammer
@dreighver
@rochrist

Moderator: @robertweathers

Sounds interesting!

 

[Uptown]

 

[PP2]

I watched a bit of the game last night when it replayed on NFLN.

Brady was great but he wasn't the real MVP. It was both coordinators. They broke every tendencies they've had all year long. You name it- from running on first down to the tweaked coverages they threw at Mahomes. Their cover 2 shell was so deep the safeties were practically in the parking lot. The biggest thing to me was how much they changed the defense post-snap. Very disciplined- that D played lights out, assignment, alignment, responsibility. The offense had plenty of plays from our playbook- some of you probably recognized the famous "Charles Barkley" trap pass and the inside fake cut route that Edelman did, that AB copied for his TD.

As has been pointed out many times here, KC never bothered to adjust, never bothered to bring a new gameplan. Hubris was Reid's downfall.

I've bagged on both coordinators all season long. Have to now take my hat off to them.

In either their first or second playoff game, @KontradictioN was the first to recognize that Bowles had been playing rope-a-dope during the regular season and had flipped the script in the postseason. I have to acknowledge that he was right.

Never would have occured to me that Bowles would be capable of doing something like that- so naturally I have to eat some crow here, but more unpleasant is the thought that he fooled me as well.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Oh man...don’t start. Just for that I’m going to call on an expert panel to discuss.

@Biffins
@crawhammer
@dreighver
@rochrist

Moderator: @robertweathers

Jesus.

If I moderated that panel I would need to decide what my attitude towards the panelists would be.

Persona 1



or...


Persona 2

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Championships Since 2001

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2
New York Yankees - 1

 

[RobertWeathers]

Championships Since 2001

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2
New York Yankees - 1

They suck

 

[Zarozzor]

Championships Since 2001

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2
New York Yankees - 1

Every Yankees fan I know are pretty much the MLB version of Cowboys fans at this point.

Always talking about the glory days.

 

[sean10mm]

I watched a bit of the game last night when it replayed on NFLN.

Brady was great but he wasn't the real MVP. It was both coordinators. They broke every tendencies they've had all year long. You name it- from running on first down to the tweaked coverages they threw at Mahomes. Their cover 2 shell was so deep the safeties were practically in the parking lot. The biggest thing to me was how much they changed the defense post-snap. Very disciplined- that D played lights out, assignment, alignment, responsibility. The offense had plenty of plays from our playbook- some of you probably recognized the famous "Charles Barkley" trap pass and the inside fake cut route that Edelman did, that AB copied for his TD.

As has been pointed out many times here, KC never bothered to adjust, never bothered to bring a new gameplan. Hubris was Reid's downfall.

I've bagged on both coordinators all season long. Have to now take my hat off to them.

In either their first or second playoff game, @KontradictioN was the first to recognize that Bowles had been playing rope-a-dope during the regular season and had flipped the script in the postseason. I have to acknowledge that he was right.

Never would have occured to me that Bowles would be capable of doing something like that- so naturally I have to eat some crow here, but more unpleasant is the thought that he fooled me as well.

Tampa Bay had an extremely peak New England Patriots coaching performance in that one game.

All year they seemed like a team with middling coaching that had obvious tendencies, and players who were talented but randomly out of position or playing bad fundamentals. They rarely played truly complimentary football because one phase of the game was always on the wrong foot even if the others were on a hot streak.

But in the Super Bowl the players were sharp as HELL, like dead on with their assignments, and the coaches threw all their tendencies out the window on both sides of the ball and it just totally flummoxed the Chiefs. The Chiefs had no plan B and made no real adjustments, they just spent 4 quarters banging their heads against the wall.

A good parallel really seems to be the 2007 Giants. That was a loaded but just kinda sloppy team that suddenly got everything dialed in down the stretch and caught everyone wrong footed.

 

[Zarozzor]

The most surprising thing about this game is the revelation that Patrick Mahomes has the same key weakness that all commentators believed solely belonged to Tom Brady.

Consistent pressure without blitzing.

 

[sean10mm]

The most surprising thing about this game is the revelation that Patrick Mahomes has the same key weakness that all commentators believed solely belonged to Tom Brady.

Consistent pressure without blitzing.

Yeah, in retrospect it's weird how the Chiefs OL being so messed up was glossed over when everybody knew Tampa had a good pass rush that just made Rodgers eat 5 sacks 2 weeks before.

People bought into the Mahomes hype to the point where it made them forget basic football knowledge.

I'm not above it all either, I posted about how the Chiefs OL was the main reason they should be worried but I still kind of expected the Chiefs to be more likely to win because Tampa never looked totally dialed in as a team... until the Super Bowl.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Super Bowl 2021: Bucs QB coach says Antonio Brown ran wrong route on TD catch from Tom Brady

Super Bowl 2021: Bucs coach says Antonio Brown ran wrong route on TD catch from Tom Brady, and it still worked

www.cbssports.com

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The most surprising thing about this game is the revelation that Patrick Mahomes has the same key weakness that all commentators believed solely belonged to Tom Brady.

Consistent pressure without blitzing.

It’s beyond comical to think that only immobile QBs are affected. Rodgers also struggled badly against it. Every QB struggles against it and always has.

The difference is Brady often takes a sack or throws it away. He’ll start doing that in anticipation of the pass rush. These mobile QBs do the same thing except they scramble backwards and run outside the pocket despite often not needing to. QBs are supposed to anticipate the rush and react accordingly.

From what I observe, Brady’s weaknesses lead to less damage than the scramblers, even though those guys will occasionally get a big highlight reel play.

 

[Zarozzor]

I LOVED seeing them pretty much make Kelce quit. Meanwhile Gronk gets 2 touchdowns.

 

[Cam2HarryGOAT]

All I can say is this... I have never in my life seen the media so quick to declare a "dynasty" as they did the Chiefs last year...

An awful lot of teams have won 1 in a row....

I think a lot of it has to do with their dominant offense. The media loves a dominant offense. Same reason they slobbered all over Manning and the the Colts while we were dominating them and winning SuperBowls. That and they love anything new and shiny. They are easily distracted and live only in the now

We brought this too you every post you mad and ypu wouldn’t want to hear it

Why do we have to be mad at either of them? Sometimes things just come to a natural end. If Bill bears any blame (other than being difficult to work for) it's the roster construction. He tried to get Brady help- Harry, Sony, Sane, etc, he just failed. Why on Earth would an ultra competitive player want to come back to a team that has no chance to win a title and waste the last few years of his career? I get that a lot of people want there to be a bad guy in the situation. But sometimes there isn't one. If you want to be mad at Bill there are plenty of reasons. Arrogantly refusing to adjust the game plan in the 07 SuperBowl until it was too late. Handing a title to Foles and Doug Peterson by sitting his best CB in a petty spat, etc
This relationship just came to it's natural conclusion. Reminds me of the Ray Borque situation. It was just nice to have a winning team to root for in what was an otherwise dreadful, excruciating season. I have all of Tampa's wins saved on a hard drive, just like I do with the Pats and I will enjoy re watching for the rest of my life. Can't wait to get into the offseason and see how the rebuild starts to shape up and preseason games in August. I don't think I would feel so excited for next year were it not for what Brady accomplished in Tampa. I know I was feeling pretty burned out at this time last year.

 

[Cam2HarryGOAT]

I LOVED seeing them pretty much make Kelce quit. Meanwhile Gronk gets 2 touchdowns.

There probably isn't a non criminal in the NFL I hate more than frat bro douchebag Kelce.

 

[sean10mm]

I LOVED seeing them pretty much make Kelce quit. Meanwhile Gronk gets 2 touchdowns.

Kelce is soft.

SAWFT