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Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Chandler Jones is not a first ballot hall of famer. I don't even know if he will ever get in the Hall. Go and look at the DEs from the 70s and 80s that aren't in the Hall and tell me that Chandler Jones deserves to be in more than them. He may get in at some point, but definitely not first ballot.

He’s getting in the hall have you looked at his resume?
 


Belichick influence on Brady still strong

Smart move. If he and his offense is in a rhythm or he is doing no huddle, why would you want to break up his and the offense momentum just to celebrate a record that can be celebrated after the game.
 
Fans of 31 teams ask that question.

Judon has been one of the better pass rushers in the league thus fan. Not in the same stratosphere as Aaron Donald, but he is up there.
Very curious to see if they try some NASCAR packages with Barmore next to Judon in the middle. Might be too early in the year…
 
Gronk may be out for a while.


that sucks for gronk... while he may be wearing a different jersey, I hate to see the big galoot injured
 
i’m sure the stands tonight will be full of guys like this

 
Chandler Jones is not a first ballot hall of famer. I don't even know if he will ever get in the Hall. Go and look at the DEs from the 70s and 80s that aren't in the Hall and tell me that Chandler Jones deserves to be in more than them. He may get in at some point, but definitely not first ballot.

Chandler Jones has the most sacks of anyone the last 10 years, was the starter at his position on the NFL all decade team, and will be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

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Chandler Jones has the most sacks of anyone the last 10 years, was the starter at his position on the NFL all decade team, and will be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

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Trust me, most Pats fans haven’t looked at his stats since he left and just assume he’s been some rotational piece because Bill would never get rid of a player more then one year too early.
 
He’s getting in the hall have you looked at his resume?

Yes, but have you looked at the resumes of players like Ed Too Tall Jones, LC Greenwood, Joe Klecko, Mark Gasteneau, Richard Seymour, or Jim Marshall. None of those guys are in the Hall. I don't look at Chandler Jones as the best of his generation at DE.
 
Trust me, most Pats fans haven’t looked at his stats since he left and just assume he’s been some rotational piece because Bill would never get rid of a player more then one year too early.

Also some are total homers. You still have crazies claiming the Pats draft WR/CB well, that NKeal Harry isn't a bust or that Michel or Maroney were worth a 1st rounder. Just understand they will defend anything as homers first. For me I will diss things from 05-08 and 2013-2019 because too many John Carroll morons in the organization has a clear correlation with organizational idiocy which is less related to BB himself (but he unfortunately listens).
 
Yes, but have you looked at the resumes of players like Ed Too Tall Jones, LC Greenwood, Joe Klecko, Mark Gasteneau, Richard Seymour, or Jim Marshall. None of those guys are in the Hall. I don't look at Chandler Jones as the best of his generation at DE.

That’s on you then, he literally made the All Decade Team.
 
Chandler Jones has the most sacks of anyone the last 10 years, was the starter at his position on the NFL all decade team, and will be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

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He is only a two time All Pro. And I just listed defensive players still not in the Hall who were better than Jones in their generation than Jones is in this generation.
 
That’s on you then, he literally made the All Decade Team.

Richard Seymour made the All Decade Team in the 2000s and still isn't the Hall. LC Greenwood made the All Decade team in the 1970s and still isn't in the Hall.

We can look at other positions and I am sure there are plenty of All Decade Team players not in the Hall.
 
I saw a person with a Brady bucs jersey on at the grocery store today. Took all of the will power I could muster not to say something to him.
but at the end of the day, people like and do what they want so why should I really care?
 
He is only a two time All Pro. And I just listed defensive players still not in the Hall who were better than Jones in their generation than Jones is in this generation.


Too Tall Jones:



Chandler Jones:



come on
 
Too Tall Jones:

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Chandler Jones:



come on

Care to do that for Richard Seymour or LC Greenwood (FYI, Greenwood played before they officially recorded sacks) or Joe Klecko?
 
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