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PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots Beat Bills 23-20

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60 yard td taken away and we can’t even find where the flag was thrown or what diggs did to be penalized. That is beyond criminal.
Pop gets good YAC on every catch glad he's getting it. Pop is like an X-Slot receiver one with very good speed. I Initially predicted a Big Year for him: there's still time. Guess we can bring Kyle Williams along slowly now if Pop Douglas is doing what he currently is.
 
There should be alot of attention on this, not just how bad the calls were but they didn’t even throw a damn flag!
Not only the invisible flags, and the bad calls, and Olave's fumble they blew dead. The NFL had to buzz in from New York at least 4 different times to overturn blatantly obvious bad calls. Ball placement. Clock issues. The two-point conversion that Maye scored on easily. That's not even counting the two challenges Vrabel had to use on two other blatantly obvious calls. Not to mention the obvious 'make-up' calls to make it look less imbalanced. The PI right after the phantom flag called back the touchdown, wasn't even in the neighborhood of PI. The roughing penalty on Boutte's 2nd touchdown. The guy hit Boutte in the shoulderpad, with his chest, and not even that hard. THAT is why the Patriots went for two, and it wasn't just an analytics thing like we originally thought. They had the ball at the 1.5 yard line after that. And THEN they tried to scam the 2-point try away after the makeup call.

The single worst referee'd game I have ever seen, and I don't think it's close. If the referees *didn't* have money on the game, it certainly gave every indication that they did.
 
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There should be alot of attention on this, not just how bad the calls were but they didn’t even throw a damn flag!
This official crew is probably the worst seen in some time even national people are saying this. Let's see if the NFL does anything about it.
 
Pop gets good YAC on every catch glad he's getting it. Pop is like an X-Slot receiver one with very good speed. I Initially predicted a Big Year for him: there's still time. Guess we can bring Kyle Williams along slowly now if Pop Douglas is doing what he currently is.

Yep, pop showed little improvements in buffalo. Should have had a td. Then this week should have had 140 and 2 tds. Hopefully stays productive. If we get anything from Williams downfield that could really uncork this offense into something else.
 
Yep, pop showed little improvements in buffalo. Should have had a td. Then this week should have had 140 and 2 tds. Hopefully stays productive. If we get anything from Williams downfield that could really uncork this offense into something else.
Drake and k. Williams need to stay after practice and get some work in.. each time he throws to K. Williams is incomplete pass..
 
Not only the invisible flags, and the bad calls, and Olave's fumble they blew dead. The NFL had to buzz in from New York at least 4 different times to overturn blatantly obvious bad calls. Ball placement. Clock issues. The two-point conversion that Maye scored on easily. That's not even counting the two challenges Vrabel had to use on two other blatantly obvious calls. Not to mention the obvious 'make-up' calls to make it look less imbalanced. The PI right after the phantom flag called back the touchdown, wasn't even in the neighborhood on PI. The roughing penalty on Boutte's 2nd touchdown. The guy hit Boutte in the shoulderpad, with his chest, and not even that hard. THAT is why the Patriots went for two, and it wasn't just an analytics thing like we originally thought. They had the ball at the 1.5 yard line after that. And THEN they tried to scam the 2-point try away after the makeup call.

The single worst referee'd game I have ever seen, and I don't think it's close. If the referees *didn't* have money on the game, it certainly gave every indication that they did.

Then they tried to put 25 seconds on the playclock after the boutte overturn which would have forced us to run another play before the 2 minute warning. If Vrabel wasn’t aware of needing 40 seconds on the playclock and arguing for it I don’t think anyone would have known. We are probably missing some too, that was a total disaster easily could’ve cost us ground in the standings
 
Then they tried to put 25 seconds on the playclock after the boutte overturn which would have forced us to run another play before the 2 minute warning. If Vrabel wasn’t aware of needing 40 seconds on the playclock and arguing for it I don’t think anyone would have known. We are probably missing some too, that was a total disaster easily could’ve cost us ground in the standings
The refs STILL weren't going to change it, even though Vrabel was absolutely right. That was another situation the NFL had to buzz in from New York.
 
Drake and k. Williams need to stay after practice and get some work in.. each time he throws to K. Williams is incomplete pass..

Oh yeah, im not sure what happened on the play late where it looked like Williams was open for a big first down but maye threw way behind. Interested to see if it was a miscommunication or just a misfire
 
Oh yeah, im not sure what happened on the play late where it looked like Williams was open for a big first down but maye threw way behind. Interested to see if it was a miscommunication or just a misfire
It was a bad route by Williams, he ran back inside toward the coverage, Maye threw it where he was supposed to be.
 
Oh yeah, im not sure what happened on the play late where it looked like Williams was open for a big first down but maye threw way behind. Interested to see if it was a miscommunication or just a misfire
Yeah, it seems as if this happens alot. Williams seems to be running the right routes, be nice to get some completions down field to him.. that would help open up the entirety of the offense.
 
It was a bad route by Williams, he ran back inside toward the coverage, Maye threw it where he was supposed to be.

Gotcha, it woulda been a huge conversion too. Think theyll click eventually
 
Yeah, it seems as if this happens alot. Williams seems to be running the right routes, be nice to get some completions down field to him.. that would help open up the entirety of the offense.

Fortunately with this schedule they should have some opportunities to get extra work in. The saints are a deceiving 1-5 i think, i feel more comfortable about the next 2.
 
So that explains it KW is not ready for prime time.
I can't remember the last time K. Williams caught a pass. Once he and Drake get on the same page, with Diggs, Boutte and Henry this offense will be a problem!
 
Fortunately with this schedule they should have some opportunities to get extra work in. The saints are a deceiving 1-5 i think, i feel more comfortable about the next 2.
Saints are sneakily a pretty solid team. I tip my hat to them.. rattler is solid and they have some pieces around him. This next game has alot of meaning..

Vrabel specifically of course, and Drake gets to go back for redemption from last season...
 
Then they tried to put 25 seconds on the playclock after the boutte overturn which would have forced us to run another play before the 2 minute warning. If Vrabel wasn’t aware of needing 40 seconds on the playclock and arguing for it I don’t think anyone would have known. We are probably missing some too, that was a total disaster easily could’ve cost us ground in the standings
Imagine if that was lala land Mayo.

 
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