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Who do you want to see OUT?

  • Mac Jones OUT! Let us see Zappe!

    Votes: 33 25.8%
  • Matt Patricia OUT! Let someone else call the offensive plays!

    Votes: 102 79.7%
  • Joe Judge OUT! He is ruining our Quarterbacks!

    Votes: 48 37.5%
  • KEEP them ALL - I have complete FAITH in the choices BB has made so far this season!

    Votes: 5 3.9%

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    128
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Yes, if Jones gets in fights with Patricia on the sidelines, Belichick is likely going to side with the coach no matter who is right. He won’t put up with that unless you are a Brady or one of his proven starters like a Bruschi, Law, McGinest, etc.
Very curious if Bill is asked about this tonight.
 
The Bills toyed with our team tonight...like a cat with a mouse. No Von Miller? so freakin' what...like THAT ever mattered? 12 plays eating up 9 minutes and 3rd and goal? What WILL the Bills do???? Oh....right...run it right up the friggin' middle...right over our D line...like it wasn't even there...which it wasn't...ALL NIGHT. They toyed with us...and THAT is more embarrassing than any other possible outcome.
 
Rhamondre has been the only guy who I think has talked so far, for anyone who wants to watch this live. Just bumping it with another link the broadcast:

 
Would not be surprised at all if Zappe starts next week. Patricia is in Bill’s ear.
 
How is Mac getting as much crap as Matty P??
Mac was playing his butt off. There's just nothing going on. RB flat's aren't going to win when you're down by 17 in the 4th.
It took until it's out of reach for the STUPID coaches to start playing up-tempo and move the ball. And I'm including BB in that.
He has allowed this garbage on the field for 12 games. Demote Patricia, and throw Calley in there - just to see.
We can't put this all on Mac.
this place is full of smooth brains
 
Hard


Sometimes you have got to let the truth out
He's the guy who is going to take the heat for it, and he's also not a fan of losing, so I get it. Whether or not he survives it, though, should be interesting. He's supposed to speak in a few minutes and I'm curious to see if someone asks him about it.
 
Maybe Patricia isn't the best offensive coordinator but let's be honest Jones isn't good enough to be yelling at him.
Patricia wouldn’t sniff an OC position if it weren’t for his buddy Bill giving him the job, he didn’t earn jack squat.
 
I'm afraid they ruined Mac for good, just like many were afraid of before the start of the season.
 
Sometimes you have got to let the truth out

Maybe but it isn't like Jones strength is passing the ball long.

Honestly the offense needs a complete overhaul including the offensive coordinator.
 
He's the guy who is going to take the heat for it, and he's also not a fan of losing, so I get it. Whether or not he survives it, though, should be interesting. He's supposed to speak in a few minutes and I'm curious to see if someone asks him about it.
Do you really expect him to say anything of value? “Yea I’m competitive and I just want to win blah blah blah word salad.”
 
I'm afraid they ruined Mac for good, just like many were afraid of before the start of the season.
I don’t think one season is enough, if they go into next year with the same structure, that’ll do it.
 
Maybe Patricia isn't the best offensive coordinator but let's be honest Jones isn't good enough to be yelling at him.
Post of the year it's real hard to Defend Wac Jones.
 
Do you really expect him to say anything of value? “Yea I’m competitive and I just want to win blah blah blah word salad.”
Any pause or any indication about that converation, that sort of thing. His demeanor, etc. That's about all we're going to get, so it's sort of all you can look for.
 
This team is average. That’s it. From top to bottom. The one man who put this all together is Bill Belichick. I love the man for all he’s done for this organization, but he better do a helluvalot more this offseason or he’s done here. It starts with the coaching staff, on both sides of the ball. ****, this season, game after game, it’s the same ol song and dance. On both damn sides of the ball. There’s some talent on this team, but it’s gonna need quite a bit more. They need to fix both tackle positions, rebuild the WR corps…AGAIN! Theyve gotta get an impact interior DL, try to somehow find a shut down corner out there to match up with all these WR heavy teams they have in the division, and idk…would it be too much to ask for at least 1 athletic ILB that they can keep on the field? I haven’t even *****ed about needing a kicker and punter. Soooo much more work that needs to be done. The fact that we’re this far into the season and no changes have been made makes it hard for me to feel optimistic about BB’s future here.
 
If Mac has exploded on coach during the game then you know that Bill has lost the room.

This is worse than 09.
Bill hasn't lost the room, he's lost his mind.
How mental do you have to be to keep Matt calling plays. But maybe the scheme is BB's. And it's old and stale.
They don't risk a darn thing, they wait until 4th qtr out of the game until they go 2min offense.
It seems like no one believed tonight. I do wonder if tonight killed the season - in the hearts of the players.
 
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