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I am wondering if perhaps Bill specifically wanted O'Brien as his next OC, but O'Brien could not come until 2023 so Bill needed a stopgap. He felt Patricia, Judge and himself could manage things for a season and then they could bring in O'Brien to build things up further the year after. Obviously it didn't go well and he underestimated the complexity of the job and the capabilities of Patricia and Judge, but he wasn't going to go bring in someone else when he already has plans in place for an OC in '23, so he rode it out.

O'Brien makes a lot of sense, if they're going to go back to more of the older system. But, if they're going to keep trending towards the flavor of the month offenses, they'd be better off poaching someone from that coaching tree.
 


Something tells me this “standard” isn’t always used by the refs.

I love having to have the "pool report" take with the officials after every god damned Patriots game to ask them why the hell they chose to do what they did.
 
Every week someone finds a way to lose the game for the team !! Been that kind if a drain. I am looking forward to the off season to see what happens and where we go from here .
 
O'Brien makes a lot of sense, if they're going to go back to more of the older system. But, if they're going to keep trending towards the flavor of the month offenses, they'd be better off poaching someone from that coaching tree.
Yeah, I'm not really sure what the thinking is on that front. Perhaps they will try to do both - add O'Brien but also blend in some zone concepts? I'm really not sure. It simply feels like Belichick was in over his head on this one.
 
Spirited comeback, 6 yards from a potential win. Could have snatched a win from a very good team. Disappointing end.

On to 2023 I guess?
Yes, they should play Zappe the last few games and see what he can do… season is over anyways
 
Yeah, I'm not really sure what the thinking is on that front. Perhaps they will try to do both - add O'Brien but also blend in some zone concepts? I'm really not sure. It simply feels like Belichick was in over his head on this one.
Yeah, O’Brien is not the answer here… if you followed what he did in Houston… He is not the answer
 
"At the same time, please take a deep breath before over-reacting for the sake of making this a pleasant experience for everyone." I'm really really trying.
 
Yeah, I'm not really sure what the thinking is on that front. Perhaps they will try to do both - add O'Brien but also blend in some zone concepts? I'm really not sure. It simply feels like Belichick was in over his head on this one.

Reporters have said that they've known BB to want to move to a bit more of the Shanahan system for a while, and have opined that Brady was the reason that didn't happen. But, be that as it may, we can see that the Weiss/O'Brien/McDaniels system is still very effective in the NFL, and was good for Jones.

So, while I can understand the idea of being interested in change, it didn't make sense to push it the way BB did, given the QB he has under center. The whole point of the Shanahan system is to make it idiot proof at the QB position, and it only works if you've got a lot of offensive talent at positions other than QB. The strength of Jones is supposed to be his intelligence. So BB effectively drafted a Brainiac and then drew up a "game plan" for a jock.
 
Tunescribe Harry please stop beating a dead horse.

What -- did you miss your nap today hoping to see your binky play quarterback?
 
Yeah that is correct. Not likely though.

However, let's say Miami does lose tomorrow. I can see a situation where NE beats Miami next week, Buffalo beats Cincinnati next week and KC loses to Denver (Denver was playing well against them last time and nearly won). If that happened, Buffalo could rest their starters in the final game and still keep the #1 seed, allowing an NE win. Stranger things have happened!

But again. Definitely not likely.
I can see Bills playing NE hard no matter the scenario.... scratch that - hmmm now I'm thinking Bills lost to Dolphins and then narrowly beat them for the 2nd game, so I can see them "resting" their players to guarantee the Dolphins don't make it in. Phins are a way bigger threat than the Pats to the Bills.
 
I mean. I wasn't sitting here hoping to lose games all season.

Season pretty much ended when they lost to the Vikings.

Losing to their Bears at home was also quite a tell for where this season was heading. They can climb rather high if they lose the next two.
I don't understand this mentality.

I really don't.

I definitely want them to win the next 2 games.
 
Yeah, O’Brien is not the answer here… if you followed what he did in Houston… He is not the answer
He is a professional offensive coach…which is light years ahead of what we had to watch this year.

I’d gladly take it, move Joe back to ST, and Matt….anywhere really. I could live with him as full-time OL coach.
 
They need to let Jones throw the ball. they looked like an NFL offense in the second half
this, this, this, this......


This was the difference in the second half. Although people do not like his belly aching and i get it. But this has been what he was frustrated with. They keep doing the same h.s. "paint by numbers" on offense week in and week out. I do not know how many teams have to come in here and told you they know what the pats are going to do on offense.


i do not know why on their last red zone trip they didnt just staytrying to get Bourne the ball. Like you do not have a "rub route" on your play sheet. Bourne and Mac started cooking a little.
 
I love having to have the "pool report" take with the officials after every god damned Patriots game to ask them why the hell they chose to do what they did.
You know what they're going to say. He broke the tackles, etc.

Here's what I want to know...

Why didn't a ref prevent the Bengals from hiking the ball so we could see if the Bengals WR really survived the ground in the 1st half?

Can you launch the ball into the 30th row if a defender has you dead to rights? Why isn't that intentional grounding?
 
I don't understand this mentality.

I really don't.

I definitely want them to win the next 2 games.

Makes no difference one way or the other. Without stakes what's the point.
 
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