Patriots Player Departure Official 2023 Patriots Roster Cutdown Thread (final roster in opening post)

[RobertWeathers]

I like him just because he was fun to watch at PSU. Will always root for Nittany Lions.

My daughter is a Fr at Penn State. By default I am now a huge PSU fan.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

No one claiming Zappe imo so low risk

 

[Kontradiction]

Trace McSorley fans from coast to coast are weeping

I think his parents are still together.

 

[masterbouncer]

Worth mentioning also, Folk is on the books for $1.6M in salary and $600K in roster bonuses which are currently LTBE since he was last year's starter so counting against the cap. Releasing him or trading him saves $2.2M in cap space outright.

thought you went through the cap space school from @Miguel to know that Folks cap would be replaced by another player on the roster which reduces the cap saving generated by cutting him ;-)

next man up something like 950k or so, so roughly 1.2M savings in best case

 

[WinstonSmith]

Worth mentioning also, Folk is on the books for $1.6M in salary and $600K in roster bonuses which are currently LTBE since he was last year's starter so counting against the cap. Releasing him or trading him saves $2.2M in cap space outright.

Another cut that would free up some cap savings (3 million) is Guy, who declined a bit last year.

 

[sb1]

A Zappe cut would be a shocker. I don’t think they would gain much from a move like that if anything at all. He’s still on his rookie deal.

 

[rkarp1]

for me, other than Carl Davis, no surprises yet.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Another cut that would free up some cap savings (3 million) is Guy, who declined a bit last year.

Guy is my top surprise cut candidate, which means he is safe.

 

[Bill Lee]

I forget, is this the "we have plenty of cap" thread or the "we need more cap" thread?

 

[Kontradiction]

I forget, is this the "we have plenty of cap" thread or the "we need more cap" thread?

You’ve done enough capping in the War thread. Best to just leave it down there.

 

[Ring 6]

RB will be curious - do Pats cut JJ & Harris with the assumption they can put them on PS.
I bet they see MonTy as a lock (although his injury status is a deep state secret at this point)
Rham, Zeke, MonTy might be the 3 they keep tomorrow.
JJ is on the bubble, but seems he's safe to save for PS along with Harris.

Why would anyone consider Montgomery a lock? What is it that people see in this player? Do we expect 30 year olds to suddenly be better than they ever were before?

 

[Ring 6]

thought you went through the cap space school from @Miguel to know that Folks cap would be replaced by another player on the roster which reduces the cap saving generated by cutting him ;-)

next man up something like 950k or so, so roughly 1.2M savings in best case

It wouldn’t be next man up, it would be ryland. The cap savings is the difference between the 2.
We are no longer in top 51 land.

 

[jdlboot14]

Why would anyone consider Montgomery a lock? What is it that people see in this player? Do we expect 30 year olds to suddenly be better than they ever were before?

The way they treat him and speak of him is what makes me think they think of him so highly. Do you think they feel good about just Rham, Zeke & JJ as a deep RB position? Also - many thought Strong was the next James White, so there's obviously a vast difference in how the team sees players versus what the fans see.

 

[Sect140]

Why would anyone consider Montgomery a lock? What is it that people see in this player? Do we expect 30 year olds to suddenly be better than they ever were before?

I agree, I would hate to see Montgomery win the job over Taylor. He really hasn’t done anything in his career.

 

[jdlboot14]

Cards cut Colt McCoy.
Real question - would you feel better about Zappe playing 4 games this year (if Mac goes down) or McCoy?
I'd say this - I'm not thrilled with our backup QB options right now.
Who cares if Zappe is cheap. If he's not a pro-style QB with any long term development upside, why keep him as the #2?
I'd rather have an average vet who is a better Yoda for Mac, than a below-average 2nd year thorn in the side to Mac.

 

[203Pat]

Why would anyone consider Montgomery a lock? What is it that people see in this player? Do we expect 30 year olds to suddenly be better than they ever were before?

I cant believe I agree with Andy but I am 100% in agreement. It has been 4 years since he even had 200 all purpose yards but for some reason people seem to think Montgomery is some secret weapon Bill is ready to roll out week 1 and take the league by storm.

 

[203Pat]

Cards cut Colt McCoy.
Real question - would you feel better about Zappe playing 4 games this year (if Mac goes down) or McCoy?
I'd say this - I'm not thrilled with our backup QB options right now.
Who cares if Zappe is cheap. If he's not a pro-style QB with any long term development upside, why keep him as the #2?
I'd rather have an average vet who is a better Yoda for Mac, than a below-average 2nd year thorn in the side to Mac.

Zappe is cheap and knows the system etc but from what I have seen/heard about him this preseason I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in McCoy.

 

[jdlboot14]

I cant believe I agree with Andy but I am 100% in agreement. It has been 4 years since he even had 200 all purpose yards but for some reason people seem to think Montgomery is some secret weapon Bill is ready to roll out week 1 and take the league by storm.

I think most of it is based on last year's TC, and game 1 - the only offensive production we had before he got hurt.
I agree, he's not a sure thing in any category. But, we just don't know if he can be the "Brandon Bolden" type / flex option.
he's certainly more proven than JJ in an all-around role.
Needless to say, we'd be better off bringing in another 3rd-down prospect. Say, like the bust they just traded away for our 15th OT of the year.

 

[rkarp1]

I think most of it is based on last year's TC, and game 1 - the only offensive production we had before he got hurt.
I agree, he's not a sure thing in any category. But, we just don't know if he can be the "Brandon Bolden" type / flex option.
he's certainly more proven than JJ in an all-around role.
Needless to say, we'd be better off bringing in another 3rd-down prospect. Say, like the bust they just traded away for our 15th OT of the year.

Rex Burkhardt is still available

 

[Uptown]