He used to be the best by miles in the pocket. Do you think he still looks like it? Last year? Yards mean nothing. You guys like to argue in circles but use the same arguments for all players equally. The coaching on the TB bucs was complete crap, TB did not play well and could not elevate the team. BOTH can be true. It's not simply a talent around him issue. If he needs All Pros at every position he might as well retire. Doesn't mean he sucks, but he was absolutely part of the problem. He did not elevate that team on a snap per snap basis and as bad as coaching was, no way he didn't have a say. 18ppg.