DRAFT DAY DISCUSSION OFFICIAL 2021 NFL Draft - Day 2 Discussion Thread

[Zuma]

Updated Depth Chart per OurLads (a few specific positions we can nitpick)

Pos	No.	Player 1	No	Player 2	No	Player 3	No	Player 4	No	Player 5
OFFENSE
LWR	00	Bourne, Kendrick U/SF	15	Harry, N'Keal 19/1	18	SLATER, MATTHEW 08/5	19	Zuber, Isaiah CF20
RWR	00	Agholor, Nelson U/LV	16	Meyers, Jakobi CF19	10	Adeboyejo, Quincy SF20
SWR	80	Olszewski, Gunner CF19	88	Wilkerson, Kristian SF20
LT	76	Wynn, Isaiah 18/1	77	Cajuste, Yodny 19/3
LG	71	Onwenu, Michael 20/6	75	Herron, Justin 20/6	68	Toran, Najee SF19
C	60	Andrews, David CF15	00	Karras, Ted U/Mia
RG	69	Mason, Shaquille 15/4
RT	00	Brown, Trent T/LV	74	Cunningham, Korey T/Arz
TE	00	Smith, Jonnu U/Ten	44	Keene, Dalton 20/3	83	LaCosse, Matt SF19
TE	00	Henry, Hunter U/LAC	86	Asiasi, Devin 20/3	43	Berry, Rashod CF20
QB	1	Jones, Mac 21/1	00	NEWTON, CAM CC/Car	4	Stidham, Jarrett 19/4
RB	26	Michel, Sony 18/1	47	Johnson, Jakob SF19	38	BOLDEN, BRANDON CF12
RB	28	White, James 14/4	37	Harris, Damien 19/3	42	Taylor, JJ CF20
FB	45	Vitale, Dan U/GB
DEFENSE
OLB	00	Judon, Matt U/Bal	36	King, Brandon CF15
LDE	93	GUY, LAWRENCE U/Bal	91	Wise Jr., Deatrich 17/4	92	Thurman, Nick SF19
DT	99	Cowart, Byron 19/5	52	Spence, Akeem SF20	98	Davis, Carl P/Jax
NT	00	Godchaux, Davon U/Mia	00	Adams, Montravius U/GB	97	Murray, Bill CF20
RDE	00	Anderson, Henry CC/NYJ	96	Bower, Tashawn SF19
OLB	53	VAN NOY, KYLE CC/Mia	50	Winovich, Chase 19/3	00	REYNOLDS, LAROY U/Atl
LB	51	Bentley, Ja'Whaun 18/5	00	McMillan, Raekwon U/LV	59	Hall, Terez CF19
LB	54	HIGHTOWER, DONT'A 12/1	58	Jennings, Anfernee 20/3	55	Uche, Josh 20/2
LCB	27	Jackson, JC CF18	38	Virgin, Dee SF21	41	Bryant, Myles CF20
S	32	MCCOURTY, DEVIN 10/1	29	BETHEL, JUSTIN SF19	22	DAVIS, CODY U/Jax
S	35	Dugger, Kyle 20/2	21	Phillips, Adrian U/LAC	00	Mills, Jalen U/Phi
RCB	24	GILMORE, STEPHON U/Buf	33	Williams, Joejuan 19/2	41	Jackson, Michael T/Det	39	Ross, D'Angelo CF19
CB	31	Jones, Jonathan CF16
SPECIAL TEAMS
PT	7	Bailey, Jake 19/5
PK	6	FOLK, NICK SF19	9	Aguayo, Roberto SF20
LS	49	Cardona, Joe 15/5
H	7	Bailey, Jake 19/5

Had to rearrange the order at QB

I think they missed Johnson at FB and Harris should be RB1.

 

[DaBruinz]

I think they missed Johnson at FB and Harris should be RB1.

And Herron is the back-up at LT, not Cajuste.. I don't remember Herron taking a snap at Guard last year..

 

[captain stone]

NFW - No ****ing Way - would I have sacrificed TWO valuable, precious 4th-round picks just to jump ahead of what, one team maybe, and take somebody with obvious bust potential...I would've had no problem with Barmore at 46, but we needed those 4th-rounders more - much Much More - than we needed him at 38...Terrible trade.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

He's a Mandolorian too? Jesus, is there anything Tom Brady isn't?

I can't lie I recently saw it and think I'm cool saying it

 

[Patriot Missile]

NFW - No ****ing Way - would I have sacrificed TWO valuable, precious 4th-round picks just to jump ahead of what, one team maybe, and take somebody with obvious bust potential...I would've had no problem with Barmore at 46, but we needed those 4th-rounders more - much Much More - than we needed him at 38...Terrible trade.

If throwing away those 2 4th rounders meant not drafting an obsolete cb than I’m calling it a draft day win.

I’ll applaud them taking their chances to make sure they secured a first round talent of Barmore’s potential rather than rolling the dice on a position they have been traditionally terrible at in the 2nd round.

This team has a lot of depth at this point. An abundance of dart picks is not a need. Playmakers are.

 

[jmt57]

NFW - No ****ing Way - would I have sacrificed TWO valuable, precious 4th-round picks just to jump ahead of what, one team maybe, and take somebody with obvious bust potential...I would've had no problem with Barmore at 46, but we needed those 4th-rounders more - much Much More - than we needed him at 38...Terrible trade.

Considering that the Patriots had three 4th round picks, heading into Day Two I was okay with the idea of trading up.

However, when you look at the trade value draft chart, the Pats slightly overpaid in that deal. Moving from #46 to #38 is a difference of 29.78 points, so rather than trading 4.122 and 4.139, a fair trade value should have been 4.120 and 5.177.

Being forced to forfeit 3.77 really stings, as it creates limitations on who you target, what you can offer in a trade, etc. Not losing 3.77 at minimum would have more than made up for the loss of those two fours (59.85 points versus 37.22 points).

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Considering that the Patriots had three 4th round picks, heading into Day Two I was okay with the idea of trading up.

However, when you look at the trade value draft chart, the Pats slightly overpaid in that deal. Moving from #46 to #38 is a difference of 29.78 points, so rather than trading 4.122 and 4.139, a fair trade value should have been 4.120 and 5.177.

Being forced to forfeit 3.77 really stings, as it creates limitations on who you target, what you can offer in a trade, etc. In this at minimum it more than makes up for the loss of those two fours (59.85 points versus 37.22 points).

Other draft charts show we only gave up 6 more points out of like 380 points, not too bad especially if they thought Barmore was going soon and there was a steep drop off on the other DLine prospects. As an example does anyone care that we burned picks to move up for Hightower or Chandler Jones? If Barmore pans out it's all good.

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[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Wow, Amari is Tee Martin's son. The man is one of the Brady 6!

That’s nuts.

There are some moments when the longevity is almost unfathomable.

When Tom Brady came into the league, Joe Montana had been retired for six years.

Tom Brady is still playing and Peyton Manning has now been retired for six years.