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No fines, suspensions, etc and Ocho continues to do it.
In fairness to BB, the tweet in question happened less the 4 hours ago
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No fines, suspensions, etc and Ocho continues to do it.
You seem to misunderstand the point of at least some of us who sided with the Patriots on this. I say the Patriots didn't cheat, and I certainly don't keep them up on a pedestal as if they can do no wrong. A disagreement of interpretation, when it involves something that's never yet been established, is not cheating.
I see by your "blue name" that your not a "paying customer", so feel free to turn off this "free" site at anytime. This is the 3rd post today you've denigrated this board and it's posters.
Just get the f^^k out if it bothers you so much. No one will care. Honestly.
It happened pretty recently. You can't always act on these things instantly. I also don't remember fully, but I don't believe BB announced Welker would sit out the first quarter for his comments until it was almost game day.
I don't think fans here give BB enough credit for knowing about media things, he probably follows facebook and twitter, or atleast gets updates on what things that might relate to him and his team are being posted. I'm sure he knew what Ocho said within an hour or two of him posting it and I'm sure if he had an issue it was talked about behind closed doors.
Not a whole lot about this teams personal disciplinary issues go public.
Why should I leave? Do you read how ridiculous some of the stuff posted here is? Can you honestly tell me that you think Goodell hates this team? What supports it? It's just fan speculation nonsense.
Framing the Debate
Fans for Responsible and Accurate Media (FRAMe) was conceived in early 2008, by football fans insistent on accuracy in media accounts of “Cameragate.”
The group’s acronym touches on its mission: to help frame the debate on “Cameragate.” Any news story is presented within a frame of reference, with an agreed-upon reality underlying each story. This is problematic enough when the news media are concerned; in the case of the sports media, accountability is less stringent, and the bar is lower.
FRAMe focuses on correcting errors taken as fact in the “Cameragate” narrative – such as the myth that the NFL circulated a memo regarding videotaping prior to the 2007 season. So many stories by now have responded to the Patriots’ behavior “after the off-season memo was circulated…,” that it has become an almost arcane footnote that the memo in question was circulated in the 2006 off-season. (See FRAMe Backgrounder: “Offseason” memo was in 2006, not 2007.)
In short, a simplified consensus narrative has emerged regarding “Cameragate,” a narrative which may be palatable to a variety of interests, but is simply wrong. The narrative makes “spying” the core of the debate, when in fact spying has been part of the game for decades; paints Bill Belichick as a scofflaw, who read a memo and scant weeks later, flagrantly violated it, when no other teams would dream of doing so; and, above all, elevates selective enforcement on the part of the League, selective reporting on behalf of the sports media, and selective outrage on the part of Sen. Arlen Specter, as public services in pursuit of the truth all fans need to know.
FRAMe uses the word “Cameragate” rather than “Spygate” advisedly. The Patriots are not, in fact, accused of “Spying” (which is not a rules breach), but of “spying in a particular way using a camera,” which (sometimes) is.
FRAMe takes no stand on whether or not hearings should be held on the Senate floor. Rather, FRAMe insists that the sports media and the national news media pursue any resulting story with the same zeal and cynical eye they would turn to events of national importance. Certainly, one “frame” for such hearings is the picture of crusading Senators speaking truth to power. Another “frame” is the phenomenon of McCarthyism. FRAMe urges the sports media to remember to ask qui bene?, and urges the sports media to “follow the money.”
FRAMe is happy to supply the news and sports media with fact sheets regarding the “Cameragate” narrative, and aims to source any such resources thoroughly. Members of the sports media are invited – and encouraged – to use FRAMe as a resource for presenting “the other side of the story.”
1. Read this thread.
2. His hometown is Jamestown, NY. Meaning that he grew up either a Bills, Giants or Jets fan.
3. He worked for the Jets as an intern, leading one to conclude that the answer to #2 is JEST.
I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.
BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?
Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"
.... and you know BB is seemingly okay with it how?
I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.
BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?
Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"
Not sure whether or not Goodell "hates" this team in the truest sense of the word, but the stiff fines for the joke that was Spygate certainly doesn't help your case.
The Pats weren't punished because they were video taping the opposition's sidelines. The NFL has been okay with that for several years and the Pats certainly weren't the only team doing it. The Pats were punished because of WHERE they were videotaping. With that in mind, a docking of the first round pick to go along with one of the steepest fines the NFL has ever seen is quite a joke, hence my first post.
How serious of an offense you perceive Spygate to be depends 100% on how well you understand which rule was actually broken. You're probably still operating under the mistaken assumption that taping defensive signals is against the rules.
I think you're setting up strawmen.
People have said he took 2 different approaches to Spygate.
They also noted the reporting where Goodell's assistants celebrated with the Jets after the OT win against Cassell by saying, "I told you you'd win!" right outside the locker room.
If people think there isn't favoritism in the league office, they are blind.
Cause he signed the NFL's most prolific twitter personality in the first place?
I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.
BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?
Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"
Umm, it wasn't a one point post. But I guess that type of response was to be expected given that you obviously didn't read any of these posts (or the Spygate sticky):
How serious of an offense you perceive Spygate to be depends 100% on how well you understand which rule was actually broken. You're probably still operating under the mistaken assumption that taping defensive signals is against the rules.
He violated a rule and got caught. Isn't that considered cheating. Am I missing anything? I love my Pats and BB will go down as the GOAT HC of any team sports that I've witnessed, but he got careless and got caught. I don't see how you're rationalizing this in your head.
Say for example, a player violates the "no steroids" policy and does steroids, isn't he considered cheating?
Please explain your stance.
listen....... I love the guy. Happy as heck that we signed him. But he really needs to be careful on his twitter..
Per his tweet (30 minutes ago).
Where @nflcommish is roger goodell's twitter account.
It's illegal to pay another person's fine, and essentially chad is directly thumbing his nose at the commish (in front of him no less). Chad....... If you read these boards...... Please, please don't tweak the commissioners nose.
You play for the patriots now....... News flash...... goodell hates us. He is liable to take away a first round pick or something for this. Just play football and enough with the social media. Let us moron's piss and moan about what a hypocritical ass the commish is. You don't need to.
That's all.
LOL you're a joke dude. I'm a non-Patriot fan because I admit the Patriots cheated? Yeah it's not like I live in Boston and attended several training camp practices this year. Or don't plan to go to a few games this fall. (I'll be wearing my steelers gear )
Honestly I hate ******ed Patriots fans like you. People like you are the reason people hate the Patriots. Your precious Patriots cheated - build a bridge like I have and get over it. It's in the past. It's OK.
Homers like you are fascinating. Like whats your deal? Are you blind? Can the Pats do no wrong? Is any criticism against the Pats make you a non-Pats fan? I'm genuinely curious.
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