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Ochocinco needs to shut the eff up

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No fines, suspensions, etc and Ocho continues to do it.

It happened pretty recently. You can't always act on these things instantly. I also don't remember fully, but I don't believe BB announced Welker would sit out the first quarter for his comments until it was almost game day.

I don't think fans here give BB enough credit for knowing about media things, he probably follows facebook and twitter, or atleast gets updates on what things that might relate to him and his team are being posted. I'm sure he knew what Ocho said within an hour or two of him posting it and I'm sure if he had an issue it was talked about behind closed doors.

Not a whole lot about this teams personal disciplinary issues go public.
 
I wanna see Ocho and Brady have more of a connection against the lions this weekend.
 
You seem to misunderstand the point of at least some of us who sided with the Patriots on this. I say the Patriots didn't cheat, and I certainly don't keep them up on a pedestal as if they can do no wrong. A disagreement of interpretation, when it involves something that's never yet been established, is not cheating.

I hope everyone can agree that the Patriots did something the league told them not to? Whether you call it cheating, breaking the rules, interpreting the rule wrong or something else, they did something the league didn't want them to.
 
I see by your "blue name" that your not a "paying customer", so feel free to turn off this "free" site at anytime. This is the 3rd post today you've denigrated this board and it's posters.

Just get the f^^k out if it bothers you so much. No one will care. Honestly.

Wow. Just wow.

If I were Ian, i'd probably mail your donation back after reading this junk. :bricks:
 
It happened pretty recently. You can't always act on these things instantly. I also don't remember fully, but I don't believe BB announced Welker would sit out the first quarter for his comments until it was almost game day.

I don't think fans here give BB enough credit for knowing about media things, he probably follows facebook and twitter, or atleast gets updates on what things that might relate to him and his team are being posted. I'm sure he knew what Ocho said within an hour or two of him posting it and I'm sure if he had an issue it was talked about behind closed doors.

Not a whole lot about this teams personal disciplinary issues go public.


I agree with you on BB. When he said MyFace it should have been clear that was a joke. Do people really believe that a coach who is probably the GOAT doesn't take the time to investigate things that could adversely affect his team? If BB is not reading player tweets, someone on the team is, and it's getting reported to him. Yeah, it could be a behind-closed-doors thing, but Ocho has already tweeted on this topic (and several other goofy things) several days ago, and keeps doing it.
 
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Why should I leave? Do you read how ridiculous some of the stuff posted here is? Can you honestly tell me that you think Goodell hates this team? What supports it? It's just fan speculation nonsense.

1. Read this thread.

Framing the Debate
Fans for Responsible and Accurate Media (FRAMe) was conceived in early 2008, by football fans insistent on accuracy in media accounts of “Cameragate.”

The group’s acronym touches on its mission: to help frame the debate on “Cameragate.” Any news story is presented within a frame of reference, with an agreed-upon reality underlying each story. This is problematic enough when the news media are concerned; in the case of the sports media, accountability is less stringent, and the bar is lower.

FRAMe focuses on correcting errors taken as fact in the “Cameragate” narrative – such as the myth that the NFL circulated a memo regarding videotaping prior to the 2007 season. So many stories by now have responded to the Patriots’ behavior “after the off-season memo was circulated…,” that it has become an almost arcane footnote that the memo in question was circulated in the 2006 off-season. (See FRAMe Backgrounder: “Offseason” memo was in 2006, not 2007.)

In short, a simplified consensus narrative has emerged regarding “Cameragate,” a narrative which may be palatable to a variety of interests, but is simply wrong. The narrative makes “spying” the core of the debate, when in fact spying has been part of the game for decades; paints Bill Belichick as a scofflaw, who read a memo and scant weeks later, flagrantly violated it, when no other teams would dream of doing so; and, above all, elevates selective enforcement on the part of the League, selective reporting on behalf of the sports media, and selective outrage on the part of Sen. Arlen Specter, as public services in pursuit of the truth all fans need to know.

FRAMe uses the word “Cameragate” rather than “Spygate” advisedly. The Patriots are not, in fact, accused of “Spying” (which is not a rules breach), but of “spying in a particular way using a camera,” which (sometimes) is.

FRAMe takes no stand on whether or not hearings should be held on the Senate floor. Rather, FRAMe insists that the sports media and the national news media pursue any resulting story with the same zeal and cynical eye they would turn to events of national importance. Certainly, one “frame” for such hearings is the picture of crusading Senators speaking truth to power. Another “frame” is the phenomenon of McCarthyism. FRAMe urges the sports media to remember to ask qui bene?, and urges the sports media to “follow the money.”

FRAMe is happy to supply the news and sports media with fact sheets regarding the “Cameragate” narrative, and aims to source any such resources thoroughly. Members of the sports media are invited – and encouraged – to use FRAMe as a resource for presenting “the other side of the story.”

2. His hometown is Jamestown, NY. Meaning that he grew up either a Bills, Giants or Jets fan.

3. He worked for the Jets as an intern, leading one to conclude that the answer to #2 is JEST.
 
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1. Read this thread.



2. His hometown is Jamestown, NY. Meaning that he grew up either a Bills, Giants or Jets fan.

3. He worked for the Jets as an intern, leading one to conclude that the answer to #2 is JEST.

I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.

BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?

Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"
 
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I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.

BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?

Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"

I_was_born_in_Maine was taken........ sorry....
 
I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.

BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?

Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"

Umm, it wasn't a one point post. But I guess that type of response was to be expected given that you obviously didn't read any of these posts (or the Spygate sticky):

Not sure whether or not Goodell "hates" this team in the truest sense of the word, but the stiff fines for the joke that was Spygate certainly doesn't help your case.

The Pats weren't punished because they were video taping the opposition's sidelines. The NFL has been okay with that for several years and the Pats certainly weren't the only team doing it. The Pats were punished because of WHERE they were videotaping. With that in mind, a docking of the first round pick to go along with one of the steepest fines the NFL has ever seen is quite a joke, hence my first post.

How serious of an offense you perceive Spygate to be depends 100% on how well you understand which rule was actually broken. You're probably still operating under the mistaken assumption that taping defensive signals is against the rules.

I think you're setting up strawmen.

People have said he took 2 different approaches to Spygate.

They also noted the reporting where Goodell's assistants celebrated with the Jets after the OT win against Cassell by saying, "I told you you'd win!" right outside the locker room.

If people think there isn't favoritism in the league office, they are blind.
 
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Cause he signed the NFL's most prolific twitter personality in the first place?

Actually, not really....... I think Brandon Spikes tweets more.......

but, then again, we all know that Brandon hates his coach
 
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I grew up and currently live in North Eastern Pennsylvania. I should be a Steelers, Eagles, Jets, or Giants fan based on location. I'm a Patriots fan. My brother grew up in the same house, he's a Bronco's fan.

BB coached on the Colts, Lions, Broncos, Giants, Jets, Browns, and Patriots. Think he is still a fan of those teams?

Loyalties change and location means little. Half of the fans on this board have names like "Patriots_fan_in (SOMEWHEREOTHERTHANNEWENGLAND)"

Born and raised in NEPA as well and a hop and a skip away from you

Raised in a family that really had no favorite team

I agree,if you are not an Eagles fan or a Steelers Fan around these parts,they look at you as if you are an alien or tell you that if you hate PA teams then get the hell out of the state

PA really sucks...I want to retire anywhere but this state
 
Umm, it wasn't a one point post. But I guess that type of response was to be expected given that you obviously didn't read any of these posts (or the Spygate sticky):

I've read all about the Spygate case, it comes down to what you think is cheating. The Patriots did something they shouldn't have. Whether or not that is your definition of cheating is up to you.

Do I think the fines were a bit steep? Yes.

But, that doesn't mean you have to scream bias, the plain and simple fact is that you don't know what would have happened if another team was reported first. Maybe if the Steelers were the team they would have lost 2 1st rd picks and Cowher fined 1,000,000 instead.
 
How serious of an offense you perceive Spygate to be depends 100% on how well you understand which rule was actually broken. You're probably still operating under the mistaken assumption that taping defensive signals is against the rules.

Spygate was serious because it was Bill Belichick's legacy and a taint on the great Patriot teams of the first half of the 2000s that took the hit. It was about the way Mangini and the Jets publicly humiliated his mentor instead of going quietly to the Commish to get him to stop filming from the locations that were prohibited.

This tweet, on the other hand, is not relevant at all. Ocho is not fueling any other team's locker room and is drawing media heat away from the guys who don't need it like Haynesworth, Merriweather, Woodhead, etc. If the Commish acts on this, he's out of control.

When the regular season rolls around, though, I agree that Ochocinco should shut the eff up and just do his job.
 
He violated a rule and got caught. Isn't that considered cheating. Am I missing anything? I love my Pats and BB will go down as the GOAT HC of any team sports that I've witnessed, but he got careless and got caught. I don't see how you're rationalizing this in your head.

Say for example, a player violates the "no steroids" policy and does steroids, isn't he considered cheating?

Please explain your stance.

If violating a rule and getting caught is considered cheating then every player who draws a flag is cheating.

"Cheating" is obviously a highly inflammatory word, and trying to redefine it as something innocuous is disingenuous at best.
 
listen....... I love the guy. Happy as heck that we signed him. But he really needs to be careful on his twitter..

Per his tweet (30 minutes ago).



Where @nflcommish is roger goodell's twitter account.

It's illegal to pay another person's fine, and essentially chad is directly thumbing his nose at the commish (in front of him no less). Chad....... If you read these boards...... Please, please don't tweak the commissioners nose.

You play for the patriots now....... News flash...... goodell hates us. He is liable to take away a first round pick or something for this. Just play football and enough with the social media. Let us moron's piss and moan about what a hypocritical ass the commish is. You don't need to.

That's all.

child please!
 
how did this thread not get thrown into the garbage heap yet?
 
The man in Cincy appears to be the same he is in NE,an attention grabbiing media whore who wants the world to know everything so they focus the spotlight on him by using a worldwide website where almost everyone goes and everyone talks about.

Most players who decide they wanted to do something nuts like reimburse the player that nearly decapitated him would telephone the guy privately or email him without the world knowing,especially if he were breaking NFL rules.

This is between two athletes and no one needs to know this unless they want the world to know how wonderful they are :

It's good to see an athlete who apparently loves the game and plays to his best most times but does he really need to share his 'generosity' with everyone?.....does anyone care?

I hope when the season starts this stuff is put on a shelf and Chad produces on the field instead of in a chat room....we need him to try and help win games,not win the hearts of twitter fans.

Hate me or not in here, but that's my view.
 
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LOL you're a joke dude. I'm a non-Patriot fan because I admit the Patriots cheated? Yeah it's not like I live in Boston and attended several training camp practices this year. Or don't plan to go to a few games this fall. (I'll be wearing my steelers gear )

Honestly I hate ******ed Patriots fans like you. People like you are the reason people hate the Patriots. Your precious Patriots cheated - build a bridge like I have and get over it. It's in the past. It's OK.

Homers like you are fascinating. Like whats your deal? Are you blind? Can the Pats do no wrong? Is any criticism against the Pats make you a non-Pats fan? I'm genuinely curious.

First off, chill with the personal insults. The guy that you were responding to did nothing to deserve that, and all it really does is make it obvious that you don't have a leg to stand on. After all, you clearly aren't aware of the rule that the Pats broke.

They filmed defensive signals from the wrong location. That is an infraction, and if that's how you define cheating, then so be it. Of course, by that standard, any team that's ever committed holding and not been penalized for it was cheating as well. In fact, those teams actually received more of a competitive advantage than the Patriots ever did! Once again: stealing defensive signals is not illegal. Videotaping defensive signals is not illegal. Videotaping signals from the area of the field where the Patriots videotaped them is illegal.

Roger Goodell, however, spoke of it as something that fundamentally undermined in the integrity of the NFL. Why? Who the **** knows, except that these types of ridiculous overreactions have plagued his entire tenure as commissioner. He makes the rules as he goes along, and it's catching up to him and starting to affect how seriously the rest of the league takes him. Calling us homers doesn't really reveal anything either, since a whole bunch of people on the correct side of this issue have probably never been called that before in our time here.
 
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