Not Taking the Wind is a Fireable Offense

[TheRainMaker]

What happened?

Is this a serious question?

 

[XLIX]

I think what Mayo should have been looking at was his D getting gashed.

I have always believed that on the road or as an underdog - and especially as both - you want to shorten the game. Have it all come down to one play.

As a favorite or home team - and especially as both - you want to lengthen the game, so take the overtime.

 

[signbabybrady]

Is this a serious question?

The way you said that made it seem like he slept with an owners wife or something? So yeah what are you talking about?

 

[reflexblue]

Vrable HC, McD OC and Flores DC would be a good start.

Sounds good to me.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The way you said that made it seem like he slept with an owners wife or something? So yeah what are you talking about?

Here's all the dirt, but I'll give you the highlights:

Josh's ego was too fragile and didn't like it that Cutler, Scheffler and Marshall were running the show in Denver. Cutler revealed that McDaniels did try to trade for Cassell after a meeting got heated with McDaniels trying to do the Bill and rip the player. Cutler wasn't having it and asked for a trade.

Josh told the Broncos players after trading Cutler that he could turn a High School QB into an All Pro.

Immediately shipped Peyton Hillis out of Denver after McDaniels wife mentioned she was attracted to Hillis.

Not in the articles, but Shannon Sharpe has said on his show with Skip Bayless, that McDaniels was not liked in Denver which is why he was fired so quickly.

Brandon Marshall also isn't a fan and thinks he should be banned from the NFL.

David Carr said McDaniels told him Tom Brady bullied him in NE.

Then you have the locker room situation where McDaniels walked into an ambush of players going off on him and then he desperately turns to Antonio Pierce for help, only getting into it with him because he brought up Super Bowl 42. This essentially sealed his fate in Las Vegas.

He's never getting a significant job in the NFL again.

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[signbabybrady]

Here's all the dirt, but I'll give you the highlights:

Josh's ego was too fragile and didn't like it that Cutler, Scheffler and Marshall were running the show in Denver. Cutler revealed that McDaniels did try to trade for Cassell after a meeting got heated with McDaniels trying to do the Bill and rip the player. Cutler wasn't having it and asked for a trade.

Josh told the Broncos players after trading Cutler that he could turn a High School QB into an All Pro.

Immediately shipped Peyton Hillis out of Denver after McDaniels wife mentioned she was attracted to Hillis.

Not in the articles, but Shannon Sharpe has said on his show with Skip Bayless, that McDaniels was not liked in Denver which is why he was fired so quickly.

Brandon Marshall also isn't a fan and thinks he should be banned from the NFL.

David Carr said McDaniels told him Tom Brady bullied him in NE.

Then you have the locker room situation where McDaniels walked into an ambush of players going off on him and then he desperately turns to Antonio Pierce for help, only getting into it with him because he brought up Super Bowl 42. This essentially sealed his fate in Las Vegas.

He's never getting a significant job in the NFL again.

The Problem Was Always Josh McDaniels | Defector

Josh McDaniels is a bad football coach. This is an objectively defensible statement. The proof is now in the tapioca, and the tapioca currently is splattered all over the turf at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. McDaniels is out, after less than two seasons as the Raiders’ head coach. They went...

defector.com

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Read more about David Carr Claims 'Tom Brady Ran the Show' in NE, 'Bullied' Josh McDaniels, and Forced the Jimmy G Trade on https://www.barstoolsports.com/

www.barstoolsports.com

Cutler says he can't trust McDaniels

Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded.

www.espn.com

Report: A Josh McDaniels-Antonio Pierce spat about 2007 Patriots helped fuel coach's firing from Raiders

Some details are coming out about the end of Josh McDaniels' tenure in Las Vegas, and a dispute over the 2007 Patriots was apparently a part of the process.

www.cbsnews.com

Former WR Under Josh McDaniels Rips Into Raiders Coach: 'What Are You Doing?'

The former star wide receiver believes that the Las Vegas Raiders head coach is on the hot seat.

heavy.com

Sounds like a bunch of gossip. He'll get a coordinator job if he wants it and if he's successful again his name will probably get back on HC searches again. He's still more qualified than Mayo lol.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Sounds like a bunch of gossip. He'll get a coordinator job if he wants it and if he's successful again his name will probably get back on HC searches again. He's still more qualified than Mayo lol.

This is coming straight from former players.

 

[signbabybrady]

This is coming straight from former players.

Where else would the gossip come from.

 

[maust]

But would you rather have 4th and goal at the 2 with a chance to win, or put it in the hands of a coin toss, defense holding up, and then driving the length of the field and scoring. I think more often than not I'd rather take the chance on the two-point try

Amen, especially as there was zero chance of the bolded happening. The Pats D was getting run roughshod over, literally. The idea that d was going to keep TN off the board shouldn't have entered into the equation at all, it wasn't happening.

 

[Grogan14]

Can someone tell Mayo to at least fake like he is doing something during the game

 

[Horace's Ivories]

I am not one of those who is blaming Mayo for everything, but the guy just wasn't ready for the top job. He's in over his head. He needed 5 years as a DC on top of the 5 years as a position coach he has.

When I suggested something similar at the time of his hiring I was called a racist and told his lack of HC experience was not unusual; "But Jeff Saturday!".

 

[Nehalem]

This statement depends a great deal on what you use as your initial conditions/assumptions. People are also criticizing Tampa for not going for 2 last night. But the NFL this year, for reasons which remain unclear, are only converting 2-pointers at a rate of 31%. If we look at that number, then taking the single point and going to overtime is far and away your best bet.

Of course, instead of looking at the League-wide average, should you instead look at your own team's success rate? Probably a ridiculously small sample size there. Tampa is 33%, which again says take the 1 point, and NE is 50%.

I guess it could be different now. I did the math a few years ago

NFL Two-Point Conversion Success Rate: Odds of Teams Converting

We take a look at the percentage teams convert on two-point attempts after a touchdown and the impact of the extra point being moved back.

www.boydsbets.com

That says there is a tiny advantage to it.

The real advantage I see is avoiding injury in OT for a game that is basically irrelevant.

 

[XLIX]

When I suggested something similar at the time of his hiring I was called a racist and told his lack of HC experience was not unusual; "But Jeff Saturday!".

I put out a challenge sometime back to the forum to name an HC with less experience than Mayo prior to taking the top job. No one responded. Interim coaches did not count so Saturday wouldn't qualify as an answer. (It also had to be in the modern era of the NFL)

No one responded. That tells me he could very well be the single most inexperienced man to even be hired as the HC in the modern NFL.

 

[XLIX]

I guess it could be different now. I did the math a few years ago

NFL Two-Point Conversion Success Rate: Odds of Teams Converting

We take a look at the percentage teams convert on two-point attempts after a touchdown and the impact of the extra point being moved back.

www.boydsbets.com

That says there is a tiny advantage to it.

The real advantage I see is avoiding injury in OT for a game that is basically irrelevant.

Like I said, it depends on the initial stats one looks at. That article you quoted takes stats that are almost a decade old and draws a conclusion. I am not questioning your math, I am just saying it is 2024. As I mentioned in a previous post, the 2 point success rate this year is about 31%, which changes the formula significantly.

 

[mgteich]

That was the first time in NFL history a team got the ball & the wind in OT. That takes historically bad coaching.

I think it’s safe to say that every JV Football coach in New England would have been able to figure out which way the wind was blowing & ensure the other team was throwing into the wind. But somehow “Thunder” Kraft hired a HC for an NFL team that was so overwhelmed that he couldn’t even take the wind in OT & cost his team the game. This is Head Coaching incompetence at a level that this league has never seen.

Can someone tell me what exactly Mayo does? He can’t coach the Offense. The front office wants to bring in help because he can’t coach the Defense. A Defense that can’t stop the run & gets worse every week. He calls himself a “CEO” & doesn’t do any actual coaching. He’s a complete failure at communicating to the media. He’s lost the locker room. His team is undisciplined & leads the league in penalties, He spends all of his time trying to look busy and sucking up to “Thunder”, but not adding any value. He doesn’t do a single thing well & has no business being the HC of any NFL team.

Wolf has a lot of power, as he should, but he doesn't have the power to fire Mayo.

Yes, I understand that posters who rather that they had the power, or for a some that Kraft had the power.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

The way this man weaseled his way to the position without any real credentials does not inspire any confidence that he can ever become a top 10 HC. Odds are always stacked against that happening even if you're a genius---but it's 1,000 times worse when you get there with no merit just by schmooching the boss.

This is where I’m at.

Dude really strikes me as a politicker who kissed the right asses, but just has zero substance or competency behind the pithy corporate buzzwords.

I’ve met dozens of that type in business…they always get exposed eventually.

 

[Ring 6]

I put out a challenge sometime back to the forum to name an HC with less experience than Mayo prior to taking the top job. No one responded. Interim coaches did not count so Saturday wouldn't qualify as an answer. (It also had to be in the modern era of the NFL)

No one responded. That tells me he could very well be the single most inexperienced man to even be hired as the HC in the modern NFL.

Same

 

[Ring 6]

Wolf has a lot of power, as he should, but he doesn't have the power to fire Mayo.

Yes, I understand that posters who rather that they had the power, or for a some that Kraft had the power.

Wolf should have no power. He sucks. He should be the first one fired.

 

[The Gr8est]

This is where I’m at.

Dude really strikes me as a politicker who kissed the right asses, but just has zero substance or competency behind the pithy corporate buzzwords.

I’ve met dozens of that type in business…they always get exposed eventually.

Who is worse, the weaseler or the weaselee?

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Are we sure they didn't pick the wind in OT and the wind simply just...changed directions?