Not Taking the Wind is a Fireable Offense

[Delicate Genius]

Have you ever heard the player (I think it was DMAC) describe how in his first game at home Belichick took him out to the field and showed him the spot along the sidelines where the wind patterns were odd and knocked down deep balls? He got a pick that game on the exact play bb coaches him on
Mayo was a player on that team and he still isn’t at the level where he understands the wind can change in three hours.

Yeah, it was McCourty during the 2010 blowout against the Jets. The play is here (3:40 if the timestamp doesn't work):

 

[Clonamery]

Are we sure they didn't pick the wind in OT and the wind simply just...changed directions?

Nah, I don't believe in climate change.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

So you plan is hire a guy who sucks because he can learn more than a guy who doesn’t?

If you wish to interpret my comment in the most negative, narrow minded manner possible, then yes. But it was Kraft's decision, not mine.

 

[Wozzy]

Wolf should have no power. He sucks. He should be the first one fired.

This ^

 

[Ring 6]

If you wish to interpret my comment in the most negative, narrow minded manner possible, then yes. But it was Kraft's decision, not mine.

If you don’t want it interpreted as such don’t make posts claiming a lot to learn is a positive.

 

[Nehalem]

Like I said, it depends on the initial stats one looks at. That article you quoted takes stats that are almost a decade old and draws a conclusion. I am not questioning your math, I am just saying it is 2024. As I mentioned in a previous post, the 2 point success rate this year is about 31%, which changes the formula significantly.

Did some looking around

After the Giants’ failed two-point conversion on Monday night, NFL teams are 18-for-58 on two-point conversions this season. That success rate of just 31 percent is well below the historical average and well below last season, when NFL teams succeeded on 70 of their 127 two-point conversion attempts, a success rate of 55 percent.

It looks like this year is an aberration. Last year it was actually a fair amount above the long term average

Were there any rule changes to account for the poor success this year?

 

[Hyped]

Nevermind what Bill became just think about Bill's resume when we hired him in 2000. Vastly more experienced than Mayo. Even Carroll's resume in 97 makes Mayo's look like an interns.

Different game back then though. Nowadays, half of NFL coaches are 45 or younger.... back then in 2000...Gruden was the youngest coach at 37 years old and he was an outlier...

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

If you don’t want it interpreted as such don’t make posts claiming a lot to learn is a positive.

I didn't. It was as critical as the other posts on this thread.

So, breaking it down, it was a negative observation couched in a sarcastically encouraging frame.

 

[NormZauchin]

What's worse are the implications of Kraft's hand picking of him. If he was picked by the GM, we'd all be feeling better knowing that Kraft was likely to bring down the hammer at the close of the season. I have very, very little hope that will happen. Kraft's ego is massive, and Maye (NOT Mayo) has done just enough to change the tone and gain Mayo another year.

This year the Pats again end up with a top five draft choice and with four picks in the first three rounds garner just enough talent to improve on this season's abysmal record. Also, Maye, with his rookie season behind him, becomes even more of a force at quarterback. New England improves from 3 or 4 wins to 6 or 7 victories. None of this is attributable to Mayo and his staff, but Kraft doesn't see it that way and Mayo gets a third year.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

This year the Pats again end up with a top five draft choice and with four picks in the first three rounds garner just enough talent to improve on this season's abysmal record. Also, Maye, with his rookie season behind him, becomes even more of a force at quarterback. New England improves from 3 or 4 wins to 6 or 7 victories. None of this is attributable to Mayo and his staff, but Kraft doesn't see it that way and Mayo gets a third year.

I fear you may be right, and really, that's a nightmare scenario. It likely means that the Pats won't be a playoff team for 4-5 years at minimum (assuming a new regime takes over for Drake's 4th year). If Mayo really cares about the Patriots, he should admit he's in over his head and resign.

 

[stinkypete]

Firing Mayo now and bringing in - what, AVP as an interim? - does a young QB and a locker room in potential disarray no good. We are better off sucking through the last 8 games, and making a rising offensive mind an offer he can't refuse in the offseason.

 

[NormZauchin]

I fear you may be right, and really, that's a nightmare scenario. It likely means that the Pats won't be a playoff team for 4-5 years at minimum (assuming a new regime takes over for Drake's 4th year). If Mayo really cares about the Patriots, he should admit he's in over his head and resign.

I'd like to see it happen, but has any NFL head coach ever resigned, with the exception of retiring because of old age?

 

[Ian]

This ^

I keep seeing this. What else would you have liked to see Wolf do? Because other than the draft, it's not like he could force guys to sign here over elsewhere...?

Wolf and Highsmith are incredibly good at what they do. Go back and look at their past work, I stumbled across a bunch of it as I went back and researched guys they picked ahead of New England's draft in April. When it comes to the draft, they're not perfect, but they're pretty solid.

But drafted guys have to come here. Free agents, even though you can throw the sink at them - and they did multiple times - don't.

And they'll have a better shot next March at luring guys here now that Maye has emerged since skill guys will be more excited about coming here. That wasn't the case this offseason. Everything was a hypothetical. Now, they at least have something tangible to sell guys on.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Vrable HC, McD OC and Flores DC would be a good start.

I doubt Flores would come here. Patricia would. But if BB gets a job then Patricia and McD might go with BB.

 

[captain stone]

Things didn't go very well when Campbell started his head coaching career off only three short years ago.

He retains some of his faults.

Mayo doesn't seem to have the talent today that Detroit has had...but, Maye is making things interesting.

I would say that Mayo has lots of material so far that he can utilize to learn from and improve upon.

What does that even mean?

 

[XLIX]

Did some looking around


It looks like this year is an aberration. Last year it was actually a fair amount above the long term average

Were there any rule changes to account for the poor success this year?

No. I mentioned in my post that the reasons behind this were unclear.

 

[captain stone]

Mayo needs his Ernie Adams to make the in game decisions.

Isn't that what the useless gweep hack Rothstein is supposed to do?

 

[borg]

I doubt Flores would come here. Patricia would. But if BB gets a job then Flores and McD might go with BB.

Why would Flores make a lateral move that would put him back in Belichick's shadow once again?
Not to mention BB has been pumping Fat Matt's tires of late.

 

[captain stone]

I keep seeing this. What else would you have liked to see Wolf do? Because other than the draft, it's not like he could force guys to sign here over elsewhere...?

Wolf and Highsmith are incredibly good at what they do. Go back and look at their past work, I stumbled across a bunch of it as I went back and researched guys they picked ahead of New England's draft in April. When it comes to the draft, they're not perfect, but they're pretty solid...

Wrong.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Here's all the dirt, but I'll give you the highlights:

Josh's ego was too fragile and didn't like it that Cutler, Scheffler and Marshall were running the show in Denver. Cutler revealed that McDaniels did try to trade for Cassell after a meeting got heated with McDaniels trying to do the Bill and rip the player. Cutler wasn't having it and asked for a trade.

Josh told the Broncos players after trading Cutler that he could turn a High School QB into an All Pro.

Immediately shipped Peyton Hillis out of Denver after McDaniels wife mentioned she was attracted to Hillis.

Not in the articles, but Shannon Sharpe has said on his show with Skip Bayless, that McDaniels was not liked in Denver which is why he was fired so quickly.

Brandon Marshall also isn't a fan and thinks he should be banned from the NFL.

David Carr said McDaniels told him Tom Brady bullied him in NE.

Then you have the locker room situation where McDaniels walked into an ambush of players going off on him and then he desperately turns to Antonio Pierce for help, only getting into it with him because he brought up Super Bowl 42. This essentially sealed his fate in Las Vegas.

He's never getting a significant job in the NFL again.

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Good job summarizing his failures as a head coach.
As a resident of Denver for the past 20 years I can not remember a player or coach as reviled as Josh was and still is.