NFL Sunday Ticket may leave DirecTV next year.

[supafly]

Oh sorry. I'm high on coffee so I get very posty.

Usenet isn't required unless you want to save games. You used to be able to use PlayOn to record games directly from Gamepass but I haven't tried in a while since it broke. I like having a Plex (think personal netflix running on a server in your home) library of all the games I can get. So I use usenet because unlike Torrents it's very reliable. Usenet is an old message board-esque type system a lot of us old old old timers used to argue with Bob Jensen, Jet Troll extrodinaire. It's where I first read KenT's posts, for instance.

People can do more than just post on usenet they can also host binaries. It's more reliable than torrents but isn't free. But that's only if you really want to keep copies of the games locally and not have to worry about what streaming services are going to do. For instance Gamepass used to have more years up for watching after the fact but last year they cut it down to just 2 previous seasons. They said they were going to add more of the previous seasons back up but I haven't bothered to look because I just got angry about their reducing the service and started downloading games.

Thanks, man. I’m definitely going to look into this, too. I appreciate the comments.

 

[Kontradiction]

I just send $30 worth of bitcoin to some weird shady Russian dudes every year and get all the gamepass feeds through their site and/or Plex channel. It hasn't screwed me over yet and therefore it clearly never will!

You're funding terrorism but for that price to rip off the NFL, it's probably worth it.

 

[BradyFTW!]

You're funding terrorism but for that price to rip off the NFL, it's probably worth it.

Roger Goodell is the real terrorist anyway

 

[fnordcircle]

You're funding terrorism but for that price to rip off the NFL, it's probably worth it.

BTC doesn't fund terrorism, you breitbart spewing hatemonger. fight me.

 

[fnordcircle]

Thanks, man. I’m definitely going to look into this, too. I appreciate the comments.

I could talk about plex and usenet and that type of **** all day long, man. DM me any questions, it's one of my favorite topics.

I'm switching from Plex to Emby soon, but honestly I'm not sure anything will ever beat having all of my favorite TV shows and movies and Patriots games and MST3K and tasteful art provided by various female performers at my finger tips without being at the mercy of streaming providers, etc.

Again, for me it's about convenience not cost savings. If Netflix et al didn't cycle through shows and had them available in perpetuity I'd happily pay the monthly fee.

For instance right now I'm using a combo of sickbeard and sabnzbd to automatically search and find my favorite shows, grab them, and move them to my plex library so I don't have to go looking for them.

 

[Wheelman]

For those cheering this, I'd warn that the price is probably going to go up since Goodell will chase every last dollar to line his own pockets and those of the 32.

Yup, and there's always a business foolish enough to give in to their demands. Just look at FOX with TNF.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I could talk about plex and usenet and that type of **** all day long, man. DM me any questions, it's one of my favorite topics.

I'm switching from Plex to Emby soon, but honestly I'm not sure anything will ever beat having all of my favorite TV shows and movies and Patriots games and MST3K and tasteful art provided by various female performers at my finger tips without being at the mercy of streaming providers, etc.

Again, for me it's about convenience not cost savings. If Netflix et al didn't cycle through shows and had them available in perpetuity I'd happily pay the monthly fee.

For instance right now I'm using a combo of sickbeard and sabnzbd to automatically search and find my favorite shows, grab them, and move them to my plex library so I don't have to go looking for them.

I've been considering switching to Emby as well, but haven't really seen a compelling reason to. Any particular draw that's making you want to pull the trigger?

Agreed re: convenience, I still have Netflix and happily pay for it but run a Plex server anyway since at any given time they don't have most of what I want.

 

[Wheelman]

The list of **** you have to do has grown from the last post. Now there’s a third step. What exactly, is usenet? I don’t think I’m familiar.

It's nothing.

 

[Wheelman]

Oh sorry. I'm high on coffee so I get very posty.

Usenet isn't required unless you want to save games. You used to be able to use PlayOn to record games directly from Gamepass but I haven't tried in a while since it broke. I like having a Plex (think personal netflix running on a server in your home) library of all the games I can get. So I use usenet because unlike Torrents it's very reliable. Usenet is an old message board-esque type system a lot of us old old old timers used to argue with Bob Jensen, Jet Troll extrodinaire. It's where I first read KenT's posts, for instance.

People can do more than just post on usenet they can also host binaries. It's more reliable than torrents but isn't free. But that's only if you really want to keep copies of the games locally and not have to worry about what streaming services are going to do. For instance Gamepass used to have more years up for watching after the fact but last year they cut it down to just 2 previous seasons. They said they were going to add more of the previous seasons back up but I haven't bothered to look because I just got angry about their reducing the service and started downloading games.

Dude! Have you forgot about the 1st rule of usenet?

 

[fnordcircle]

I've been considering switching to Emby as well, but haven't really seen a compelling reason to. Any particular draw that's making you want to pull the trigger?

Agreed re: convenience, I still have Netflix and happily pay for it but run a Plex server anyway since at any given time they don't have most of what I want.

Disclaimer: I'm not a Plex expert and I'm even less of an Emby expert. So feel free to set me right if something has changed.

But to my knowledge Emby offers local authentication while Plex does not. That's the big reason I'm switching.

Which means I cannot access the media on my NAS that is 1' away from my Plex server and plugged into the same routing firewall when my ISP takes down my connection 3-4x a year if I want to have multiple user accounts. Ok I can access them but it means going through a network share on my lan and not using plex on my various devices.

This infuriates me to no end. I don't care if it only amounts to like 20 hours a year. I paid full price for my lifetime Plex Pass. Why the hell should I ever not be able to access my media with it?

User accounts are a requirement for me because I live in an apartment building and user auth represents a 2nd authentication layer should anyone gain access to my WiFi. It seems like a small deal but it's important to me and after laying down $150 for a product that has no business tying authentication to a remote service on principle I object to them doing so.

 

[fnordcircle]

Dude! Have you forgot about the 1st rule of usenet?

Usenet has been a thing for so long I'm not worried about it. If this post on this forum is what leads to the various providers and indexers being shut down then I'll take full responsibility.

Freaking @patfanken used (and probably still uses) usenet and he was around when they got the first ultrasound pictures of Methuselah.

 

[DaBruinz]

As someone who hates DirecTV, this is great news. Make it available elsewhere please.

Just an FYI, starting last year, they have a streaming option that you no longer have to be a DirecTV subscriber.

If the NFL is smart, they offer individual teams for $50 and the entire thing for $349..

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Honestly, so far, the VPN + Gamepass solution has been fantastic this year. Last year was the first major blip on the radar of issues and they have been resolved through the 10 or so games I've watched live so far.

IIRC it was $180 for game pass and then I pay $10 a month for ExpressVPN. I use ExpressVPN for other things (no not child porn, you a-holes) so there's additional value there for me, but a $180 one-off payment that takes care of all of my NFL needs is worth it to me and seems cheaper than paying for DirectTV + Sunday Ticket.

Beastiality... i knew it!

 

[XLIX]

The problem is that DirecTV is AT&T now.....so AT&T will be bidding just to keep it's DirecTV branch profitable....for some reason AT&T won't bring Sunday Ticket over to AT&T's Uverse TV service nor the DirecTV Now app...nor sell Sunday Ticket access as a standalone app....annoying....

If AT&T tried to bring Sunday Ticket over to their cable subsidiary, I think they would risk being hit with anti-trust violations, forcing NFL to open up Sunday Ticket to all cable providers.

I remember about 10 years ago, MLB tried to do an exclusive-rights deal with a cable company and they got smacked so hard by Congress (and the press) that they backed down. I remember laughing at the time about how the NFL has had exclusive-rights forever and no one cares. However, I think any change to the status quo will get peoples' attention.

BTW, I think any reports of the NFL leaving DirecTV is just negotiating tactics. I doubt DTV will let them go. My theory is the NFL wants to make more money on streaming, so I wouldn't be surprised if DirecTV keeps the TV broadcast rights to Sunday Ticket, but someone else picks up the streaming rights, and those 2 packages are no longer tied together.

 

[Julius]

I could see Amazon jumping on this opportunity. Free NFL with Prime membership.

 

[Kontradiction]

I could see Amazon jumping on this opportunity. Free NFL with Prime membership.

Amazon never seems to be subject to regulation so you might have a point. Hard to see them making the only requirement a Prime membership, though. The NFL would also demand a piece of that action.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Just an FYI, starting last year, they have a streaming option that you no longer have to be a DirecTV subscriber.

If the NFL is smart, they offer individual teams for $50 and the entire thing for $349..

I thought streaming without having a DirecTV subscription was subject to some condition, like not being able to have a dish on whatever home you're living in. So, college kids in dorms and people in apartments?

From the DirecTV website:

NFLSUNDAYTICKET.TV service is only available to non-DIRECTV customers who live in select multi-dwelling unit buildings (apartments, condos, etc.,) nationwide in the U.S. where DIRECTV service is not available, live in select areas within various metropolitan cities, live in a residence that has been verified as unable to receive DIRECTV satellite TV service due to obstructions blocking access to satellite signals, or are college students.

 

[bbobbo]

I've been considering switching to Emby as well, but haven't really seen a compelling reason to. Any particular draw that's making you want to pull the trigger?

Agreed re: convenience, I still have Netflix and happily pay for it but run a Plex server anyway since at any given time they don't have most of what I want.

Disclaimer: I'm not a Plex expert and I'm even less of an Emby expert. So feel free to set me right if something has changed.

But to my knowledge Emby offers local authentication while Plex does not. That's the big reason I'm switching.

Which means I cannot access the media on my NAS that is 1' away from my Plex server and plugged into the same routing firewall when my ISP takes down my connection 3-4x a year if I want to have multiple user accounts. Ok I can access them but it means going through a network share on my lan and not using plex on my various devices.

This infuriates me to no end. I don't care if it only amounts to like 20 hours a year. I paid full price for my lifetime Plex Pass. Why the hell should I ever not be able to access my media with it?

User accounts are a requirement for me because I live in an apartment building and user auth represents a 2nd authentication layer should anyone gain access to my WiFi. It seems like a small deal but it's important to me and after laying down $150 for a product that has no business tying authentication to a remote service on principle I object to them doing so.

i switched from plex to emby about a year ago and i'm happy with the move. note i'm only a casual user--i just like using it to organize my movies and shows, but i don't even always use it for playback on clients. i use the emby plug-in for kodi, but that's a bit of a pain because it has to sync the library every time it starts up. when i'm impatient, i just fire up VLC and play the media directly from an NFS mount. i may just spring for the lifetime emby premiere which also gives you the emby theater client app for xbox one, fire stick, and android devices which we have (they also have clients for PS4 and ios devices).

plex was working fine until something must have gotten screwed up in my configuration (could have been my fault, i was upgrading the VM it was installed on). before re-installing, i decided to see what else was out there and discovered emby. i installed it in an LXD container and it's been running nicely.

local authentication is a big plus for me, just on principle--i hate the idea of having to check in with a centralized server somewhere else just to access my local library. i think emby handles movie collections better as well. i can create a "Marvel Cinematic Universe Collection" and it automatically pulls cover art from themoviedb for that collection. i don't remember being able to do that in plex.

there's also a feature request outstanding to incorporate sporting events using TheSportsDB.com | Free Sports API and Metadata as a metadata provider, so you can just import games like you do movies or tv shows. i would love that to organize all of my patriots games. maybe if enough people show interest, they'll bump that up on their priority list (i added myself to the feature request thread):

thesportsdb.org metadata connection - Feature Requests - Emby Community
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[pheenix11]

Honestly, so far, the VPN + Gamepass solution has been fantastic this year. Last year was the first major blip on the radar of issues and they have been resolved through the 10 or so games I've watched live so far.

IIRC it was $180 for game pass and then I pay $10 a month for ExpressVPN. I use ExpressVPN for other things (no not child porn, you a-holes) so there's additional value there for me, but a $180 one-off payment that takes care of all of my NFL needs is worth it to me and seems cheaper than paying for DirectTV + Sunday Ticket.

I do the same but I just buy the weeks I need a la carte for $22. Between Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night and the occasional week when the stars align and the Pats are on my local station I only have to pay for half the games or less.

 

[pheenix11]

But because of idiotic TV contracts no, I have to impersonate a goddamn Kraut just to watch games for the team I like.

I always shop around at the beginning of each season because the pricing does vary by country. Western Europe tends to be higher. I used Brazil for a couple years and have used Romania the last few years.

I have to log in via the VPN to get that country’s pricing and each week to watch the stream. It used to be you could turn off the VPN once the stream started but when I tried that last week it knocked me off so I kept the VPN on the entire time.

It’s so stupid because the address on my account and the credit card I use is in the USA. Either they don’t care or assume I’m an expatriate who travels the world.