wolverinejoe80
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I know a lot of you say we shouldn't care but it's just frustrating that the best quarterback since the postseason started in January to the regular season opener has been Brady and it's not even close. What he did against Seattle is not talked about enough yes the Butler play is probably the best SB play of all time, but what Brady did down by 10 in the 4th quarter should be recognized more
It's sounds crazy to say this since Brady and Manning are still actually playing, but the 3 QB's you compare Luck to in the above played their first 3 seasons in a totally different era. We have had 2 major defensive "rules emphasis" changes since Brady's 3rd year as a starter, not to mention all the assorted rules implemented to protect the QBs and WRs.There's nothing more overhyped than the "Luck throws too many picks" myth.
INTs through 3 seasons as starters (including 2001 as one for Brady):
Luck - 43
Manning - 58
Brady - 38
Favre - 51
It's sounds crazy to say that since Brady and Manning are still actually playing, but the 3 QB's you compare Luck to in the above played their first 3 seasons in a totally different era. We have had 2 major defensive "rules emphasis" changes since Brady's 3rd year as a starter.
Agree. Luck has 86 TD's to 43 INT's, a 2:1 ratio. Russell Wilson has 72 TD's against 26 INT's, a much better 2.77:1 ratio.Luck's interception numbers only look good next to early 2000's QB stats. Compared to his peers they're not good. Since he plays against the QBs of today, who throw nearly half as many interceptions as he does, those comparisons don't do much good.
Luck's interception numbers only look good next to early 2000's QB stats. Compared to his peers they're not good.
While we are a bunch of Patriots fans, I'm glad I'm not alone with the anti-Luck sentiment. He can have every QB trait in the world but he lacks pocket presence and decision making skills.
Take time this season to watch Bridgewater play, especially moving through the pocket and reading a defense, and then compare it to Luck. Bridgewater is inferior in nearly every physical trait, arm strength, etc, but has the most important traits needed to be a consistently great QB when it matters. I think he'll take a huge leap this year.
Agree. Luck has 86 TD's to 43 INT's, a 2:1 ratio. Russell Wilson has 72 TD's against 26 INT's, a much better 2.77:1 ratio.
Agree. Luck has 86 TD's to 43 INT's, a 2:1 ratio. Russell Wilson has 72 TD's against 26 INT's, a much better 2.77:1 ratio.
...and they have no idea what they are talking about either.
Andrew Luck lacks pocket presence and decision making skills? Seriously?
Bridge seems like a good QB prospect.
He is nowhere close to Andrew Luck.
Yes, I know, although the 'era' thing is being overblown. Brady's in a much easier passing era than was Montana yet, for some reason, that doesn't seem to be given as much weight around here when Montana v. Brady comparisons are made.
It isn't about fantasy football stats. It is about winning and losing and performing when the game is on the line. It is about winning playoff games.
Brady is now head and shoulders above any QB who has played in the last 60 years.
Look at a QB's performance when the D isn't playing well, when the running game is neutralized, look at com from behind wins in the 4 th qtr.
Neither Rogers nor any other QB is on the same level.
Thank you for this almost completely irrelevant post, that does happen to be completely irrelevant to the post you quoted before answering.
When compared to Brady and Rodgers at their level, no he doesn't.Luck has nowhere close to the pocket presence/decision making skills of Brady/Rodgers (or Romo, Manning, Wilson, Big Ben). That is who he is compared to.
We'll see by 2016-2017 on the Bridgewater/Luck comparison.
We're not talking about Montana in this thread. Your stat, which you wrote, brought up Luck, Brady, Manning, Favre.Yes, I know, although the 'era' thing is being overblown. Brady's in a much easier passing era than was Montana yet, for some reason, that doesn't seem to be given as much weight around here when Montana v. Brady comparisons are made.