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Yes, Clayton has found the key to salary cap success. Take as many top players in the lowest paid year of thier contract. It is brilliant.

And wow, the cover 2 is so simple, it means you never have to pay for talent, anybody can play the cover two. Lawrence Taylor or a rookie free agent, completely the same. He must be joking in there somewhere. Somehow the cover two is so simple that the players do not need time to learn it? Sorry, I just do not buy it.
 
Welker83 said:
Remove glasses, read statement, Check pulse...Repeat. This team if correctly coached would beat anyone.


Kinda like the Pre salary cap Cowboys.

Sorry, I disagree. I guess you are one of those fans wrapped up in name power and not real football. The skill positions are excellent, but as I said I would take the Patriot D over that one, which would be mauled by good running game. Outside of WR, I dont see where that offense is better than the Pats either. Pats are better at QB and the overall OL. That team is better at WR, starting RB, and receving at TE (but not blocking).
 
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Apparently, Clayton is as mind - numbingly bored as we are.
 
AndyJohnson said:
Sorry, I disagree. I guess you are one of those fans wrapped up in name power and not real football. The skill positions are excellent, but as I said I would take the Patriot D over that one, which would be mauled by good running game. Outside of WR, I dont see where that offense is better than the Pats either. Pats are better at QB and the overall OL. That team is better at WR, starting RB, and receving at TE (but not blocking).


But what about Depth...this team trumps the pats easily when comparing depth and in the words of BB it's the bottom half of your roster that decides how far you go because inuries are a part of the game just like rival teams...

Also i very much doubt many teams could run on them..they have a boatload of talented players on that team..it's like going against an All NFL team on madden. It's tough to win and the other team has to goof up a few times.

I'll admit when i'm a homer, but that team (if properly coached) has the ability to attack another defense any way it wants. If a defense has a weakness they have the personell to exploit..they are unlimited in what they can do and that is a defenses worst nightmare...

And rush defense is not a huge problem w/ the cover 2 if properly implemented...
2005 rush defense.. yardage
Tampa 6th
Chicago 11th
Indy 16th
2005 rushing TD's given up...
Chicago 4th
Indy 6th
Tampa 7th

And if the offense can score on you then who cares if you can run the ball..running only helps when your defense can stop the points going on the board...
 
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CrazyDave said:
Apparently, Clayton is as mind - numbingly bored as we are.


I'm so bored i can't wait for the Bears TC to start!
 
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Welker83 said:
I'm so bored i can't wait for the Bears TC to start!

I'm so bored I recently caught myself watching an Edmonton Eskimos/Calgary Stampeders game.
 
TNPatsFan said:
I'm so bored I recently caught myself watching an Edmonton Eskimos/Calgary Stampeders game.

I'm so bored i watched an WNBA allstar game
 
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Welker83 said:
But what about Depth...this team trumps the pats easily when comparing depth and in the words of BB it's the bottom half of your roster that decides how far you go because inuries are a part of the game just like rival teams...

Also i very much doubt many teams could run on them..they have a boatload of talented players on that team..it's like going against an All NFL team on madden. It's tough to win and the other team has to goof up a few times.

I'll admit when i'm a homer, but that team (if properly coached) has the ability to attack another defense any way it wants. If a defense has a weakness they have the personell to exploit..they are unlimited in what they can do and that is a defenses worst nightmare...

And rush defense is not a huge problem w/ the cover 2 if properly implemented...
2005 rush defense.. yardage
Tampa 6th
Chicago 11th
Indy 16th
2005 rushing TD's given up...
Chicago 4th
Indy 6th
Tampa 7th

And if the offense can score on you then who cares if you can run the ball..running only helps when your defense can stop the points going on the board...

None of those teams have 3 of the 4 DL being guys who rush the passer only, and dont care about the run, plus are too small to play it anyway. None of those teams take a 34 OLB and assume he could play 43 DE and hold up. You really cannot be telling me you think the Colts are a good run defense? Playing from ahead means rush yardage is lower. That doesnt tell the story.
 
AndyJohnson said:
Sorry, I disagree. I guess you are one of those fans wrapped up in name power and not real football. The skill positions are excellent, but as I said I would take the Patriot D over that one, which would be mauled by good running game. Outside of WR, I dont see where that offense is better than the Pats either. Pats are better at QB and the overall OL. That team is better at WR, starting RB, and receving at TE (but not blocking).
I'd take the Pats DL over Claytons but again, it's hard to compare 3-4 to 4-3 lines. In a 3-4 you need run stuffers, guys that command double teams. In a 4-3 you need your ends to get to the passer while the LBs fill the gaps and stop the run.
But it's pure unacy to say you wouldn't take his overall D with the significant upgrades to the secondary and LB.
And it's beyond lunacy to say that the Pats OL is superior to that lineup.
It was a fun article by Clayton I think. He does make the mistake of Peyton over Brady. Always take the better QB, no matter the money.
 
A very good read even if you don't agree with all his choices. Glad to see Wilfork getting some love.
 
primetime said:
Oh man, and you lived to talk about it?


our motto was "Drink till their hot"........we ran out of Budweiser and Bud at the bar...
 
You really cannot be telling me you think the Colts are a good run defense?

Hard to say. It was a bit of a mixed bag. At times they looked very good and at times not so much. The Steelers couldn't run on them at all either game, nor could the Patriots. LT was shut down as well.
 
Welker83 said:
Remove glasses, read statement, Check pulse...Repeat. This team if correctly coached would beat anyone.


Kinda like the Pre salary cap Cowboys.

You and John Clayton can go in the alley and have some gay sex. Its just proper.
 
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ClosingTime said:
I'd take the Pats DL over Claytons but again, it's hard to compare 3-4 to 4-3 lines. In a 3-4 you need run stuffers, guys that command double teams. In a 4-3 you need your ends to get to the passer while the LBs fill the gaps and stop the run.
But it's pure unacy to say you wouldn't take his overall D with the significant upgrades to the secondary and LB.
And it's beyond lunacy to say that the Pats OL is superior to that lineup.
It was a fun article by Clayton I think. He does make the mistake of Peyton over Brady. Always take the better QB, no matter the money.

I like the Patriot LBs better, but agree its close only because the Pats have a question mark at the 4th LB spot, but that player sees the field less than half the snaps. Bruschi or Tatupu? Williams or Colvin? Vrable or Briggs. Wait I changed my mind maybe its not close. I dont like his secodnary much, but agree that his secondary may have a bit of an edge. I like our safeties MUCH better with a healthy Harrison. Trufant is so-so, but Hall is very good.

Walter Jones is the only OL on his team that is a clear edge. And Light is the most underrated LT in the NFL.
Koppen is better than Saturday. Mankins is better than Steinbach.
I dont get the excitement over the NO RT, Kaczur outplayed him when he took the field. Snee/Neal is a draw.
Not at all a stretch to me that the Pat OL is better than that unit. It wasnt in 2005, because Light and Koppen were injured, 2 rookies were starting (and they played well for rookies) and it was an injury depleted line. If healthy, I'd take it over his.

Of course he spent a ton of money on LT, Gates and the WRs. I think its overkill at the WR spot. You negate Gates or some of the WRs. It is foolish to go nuts on Manning, LT, Gates and 3 WRs when you have 1 football and ignore blocking for them or anyone who can stop the run. Thats 30% of his cap before you block or tackle anyone. (His D would be better if he put Merriman at OLB, Wilfork at DT and got rid of Tommie Harris for a guy like Warren at DE who can play the run) Actually, he should change his D into a 34.
Keep Merriman as an OLB, Tatupu as an ILb, Williams as an OLB, Wifork on the nose, move Haynesworth to DE, get rid of Freeney and take Seymour, get rid of Harris and add an ILB.

You can create a much better D in a 34 than what he has done with the 43.

I wish I had access to the cap numbers he does. I bet it would be VERY easy to build a complete team that would destroy his fantasy team.
 
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You like your safetties MUCH better than Polamalu and Sanders? I don't even agree with that for just one year but if you are talking about building a team then it's a no brainer. Trufant and Hall are so much ahead of any of the Pats CBs this is probably the only time the'll be in the same sentence.
But overall I aggree that Clayton spends his money on the skill positions (especially on offense) and ignores the guys in the trenches.
 
Terry Glenn is a cowgirl said:
You and John Clayton can go in the alley and have some gay sex. Its just proper.


Keep your fantasies in your bed...
 
Despite the hurt feelings here because he didn't pick enough Patriots, I did think it was interesting in that it showed you could have a good, deep roster together and stay under the cap. For a year anyway. Some of those guys may be FA's after the year or cap hit rise to where you couldn't keep everyone. He wasn't saying the guys he selected were the best at thier positions. I would guess Izzo was selected for what he is. A ST player who can fill in at LB in an emergency.
 
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