McDaniels likely to go to niners, Patricia likely to stay

[Gronkowski123]

josh would want brady to join him..

i don't think BB has the balls to make that move. and if he did, kraft should veto it.

 

[Rusty Coupe]

No one else has offered him a job. If you rule out 2/3 of the jobs the other 1/3 rarely come open.

If the Ravens finish out of the playoffs again next year, the job in Baltimore could open up.

 

[Tony2046]

No one else has offered him a job. If you rule out 2/3 of the jobs the other 1/3 rarely come open.

Here's what I think. His stock will rise year after year. If he's patient enough he could ride out Brady's career. If the Pats win with a young QB Josh's stock will skyrocket. Those premium jobs will get offered to him and he'll have more leverage at the table. Even if the Pats win a SB this year Josh will get more opportunities. He doesn't have to settle for whatever comes available.

The HC jobs available after the 2014 season:

Philadelphia Eagles
Atlanta Falcons
Denver Broncos
Chicago Bears
San Francisco 49ers
Oakland Raiders
Buffalo Bills
New York Jets

HC jobs available after the 2015 season:

Tennessee Titans
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Philadelphia Eagles
San Francisco 49ers
New York Giants
Cleveland Browns
Miami Dolphins

Anyways every year jobs open up. If Josh is patient those premium jobs will get offered to him eventually.

 

[thecore762]

If McDaniels cares about his coaching career then he should avoid SF because they were inept to keep a good coach like Jim, now they going to kill his career if he moves there, I think he should just wait it out another year before leaving.

I do hope we keep Patricia, he is the guy that I trust the most if BB were to retire I'd want him to take over that role.

 

[BobDigital]

I never got why teams need to rush to hire coaches. Usually the best candidates are on playoff teams and they rush to sign these guys who aren't as good to get the early jump on things.

Personally I think the early jump is overrated and if you believe the coach is the guy wouldn't you be willing to have 1 year under achieve if he will be a coach you are happy with for 10+ years?

 

[Joker]

Personally I think the early jump is overrated and if you believe the coach is the guy wouldn't you be willing to have 1 year under achieve if he will be a coach you are happy with for 10+ years?

Looked at this forward, backwards and sideways...still cannot make head nor tail out of it, Bob.

 

[patfanken]

Some comments on the comments:

1. Jed York is a yutz of the first order, but you can get around that contractually

2. SF is a great area to live and raise a family. He could move into Brady's old neighborhood.

3. The cuphoard is bare in SF, and expectations are very low. He will have a minimum of 3 years before fans would be upset with less than a 500 record. All he'd need to do is show consistent small incriments of improvement. Other places would be less patient.

4. Making JG a contractual demand would be make sense. Giving the Pats a 2nd and 4th this season and a first in 2018 is a fair trade. Remember the Pats once gave up a first and 4th all they got was a HC. SF would be getting a HC AND a QB

5. Riddick sounds like someone Josh can work with. I'll assume if he takes the job, he's be on board with whomever they sign as a GM, and TOGETHER they can keep York at bay.

6. If he doesn't go to SF then I think he should stay. LA seems like even a more toxic job than Buffalo, especially with the Chargers moving in which will only increase the demand for winning in order to sell tickets in a market that can barely support one team. There is no rush. But if I were him, I'd demand my QB and OK of the GM before I work for York.

 

[patsfan-1982]

the 49ers are in bad shape no QB no dept at WR below average OL and the defense needs more work then the offense. colts would have been the perfect job for him

 

[Joker]

Pass on anything to do with the 49ers...it's a no win situation

 

[wizwor]

SF's owner seems to have questionable decision making. But even if Josh fails thats 2 head coaching contracts so he is already set for life. He can always go back to being a coordinator if it doesn't work out. But if your Josh .. do you really want to roll the dice with that owner??

I would guess his one coaching gig set Josh up for life ($8m). I believe he gets $1.5/yr with the Pats. He's a young guy still and will have opportunities. We do not know how things happen inside the kraft organization. He may know he is in or out or under consideration to replace BB. THEY may want him to take a position to gain experience. Regardless, only one two coaches matter in this town -- Bill and Scar.

 

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

IF this report is accurate, and that's a big if...

Seems to me homeboy owner did the hard sell that he would give Josh time to turn the team around. The Garoppolo thing is still in play since they don't really have a QB out there.

But I'm still not sold that Josh is leaving. Maybe he will, but San Fran doesn't seem like the right place.

They don't have the picks for Garopollo. If they will rebuild they need future picks, and this year draft their pick is too high imo for Garopollo. SF is a mess, they don't have the talent to trade for picks, and they didn't stock picks like the Browns. That will take time...

 

[DarrylS]

Despite the lack of talent in San Francisco, it is a much heralded franchise whose fans may be content with a wild card game by year three...

The challenge for McDaniels is to develop some sort of protection from York so he can run the team.. and wrest the power from a self-entitled heir to DeBartolo...

 

[RobertWeathers]

Despite the lack of talent in San Francisco, it is a much heralded franchise whose fans may be content with a wild card game by year three...

The challenge for McDaniels is to develop some sort of protection from York so he can run the team.. and wrest the power from a self-entitled heir to DeBartolo...

He needs a buffer that he can trust like a brother. The hotheadedness runs in that family.

If it wasn't for Carmen Policy, Eddie DeBartolo would have fired Bill Walsh a handful of times.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He's said it more than once and not just "off the cuff." Are you really counting on BB coaching into his seventies? I'm not suggesting McDaniels do anything, but it wouldn't surprise me if he and BB had an understanding.

BB says nothing off the cuff.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Let's look at this concept of passing up HC jobs to wait for the plum job to come along.

How many top organizations and owners are there and what are the chances of getting an offer from them.

Let's rule out dysfunctional and perpetual losers. By division we eliminate

Jets
Buff
Miami

Cincy (cheap)
Cleveland

Indy
Jax
(Tenn & Houston are questionable )

Oakland
Sd (haven't won in a long time ownership is whacko)

Dallas (owner)
Wash (owner)
(Philly is questionable because if terrible frontboffice)

Detroit
Chicago
(Minn shaky owner )

Tampa
Saints (can't even sustain winning with Payton)

Sf based on this discussion
LA
(Arizona borderline)

So that leaves these as the only jobs

NE
Pitt
Baltimore
Denver
KC
Giants
GB
Minnesota?
Carolina
Atlanta
Seattle
Houston?tennesee?

So we are saying there are only between 10 and 13 viable jobs.
With the cischjng situation in place in each of those teams there may not be an opening for at least 3 years and if there were it would be. Cause the team fell apart.

Are we really saying that McDaniel should turn down jobs until these come open and hope he is the one they choose?
I think if he takes that approach he may never be a HC.

I think you're talking extremes here. Nobody is suggesting Josh wait for a Super Bowl contender opportunity to open up, but it's a lot of effort and time to implement a proper program, and he can't just pick up his family and go somewhere for a year, only to get fired and move again.

Some coaches DO need to do that, especially position coaches. But Josh can be more selective.

You're assuming the job offer is static, and only one way. Josh may have demands, and if he doesn't get what he wants, it's not worth it. Like in Jacksonville, maybe one of the conditions was you keep Bortles. We don't know. But to assume the offer is only one way is a very limited world view.

As for your list, and I think it missed the mark. For example, how did Detroit end up on the NO list? They have a QB in Stafford, just went to the playoffs, a former Patriot at GM, a pretty patient hands-off owner, like...what the heck? I'm not going through it all, I just think you're focusing on the things that don't matter to Josh, and missing the things that do.

Josh has also been there, done that so he's not desperate like you keep claiming. Next year, there will be 6 or 7 new options, same with the year after that...there aren't a lot of jobs in the world, but roughly 20% of them are available every year.

Maybe we just have different world views on employment in general. But I think if you were Josh, you would not walk your talk, and you would think about it much differently instead of bending over for any offer you can get.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I still think he wants to break Shula's all-time win record. I hope he does it while Shula's alive.

IIRC this year he passed Shula on alltime win percentage ( playoffs included)....

 

[patman52]

I understand that the ownership is bad. But if I was a coach I would look long term in the division. Arizona is not built for the long term, Seattle to me is on a downward trend and the rams are even a bigger mess. If he and the New GM click SF is a nice job. He will make tons of money and he always has being a top OC in demand in his back pocket. SF has all their picks and no QB.

If he brings in Garrapolo for a 2nd, he is on his way.

 

[PatsGuy]

I think Albert is full of schitt

That's your opinion. Now back up why u don't think so

 

[FCB02062]

That's your opinion. Now back up why u don't think so

Based on 10+ years reading and listening to this trust fund baby from Lincoln Sudbury....his record of being correct is probably below 50%

 

[Ring 6]

If the Ravens finish out of the playoffs again next year, the job in Baltimore could open up.

That would mean rejecting a job now in order to hope that one team has a bad year abd then if they do banking everything on that team hiring you. If he had felt that way about buffalo, San Diego, Jacksonville or Denver during last off season the first half would have come true but then he wasn't the guy they wanted.