McDaniels likely to go to niners, Patricia likely to stay

[The Brandon Five]

Is anyone else seeing a long-term scenario with TB12 returning home in his last couple of years in the league ala Montana to KC?

 

[Tunescribe]

What better situation is there that is likely to open up? The stable organizations win and don't need to hire new coaches.

BB will retire within five years. He's said more than once he won't be coaching at 70.

 

[Love The Drake]

Mcdaniels will not go to the niners.
By the way the Niners are having a second interview with Shanahan

 

[Ring 6]

Let's look at this concept of passing up HC jobs to wait for the plum job to come along.

How many top organizations and owners are there and what are the chances of getting an offer from them.

Let's rule out dysfunctional and perpetual losers. By division we eliminate

Jets
Buff
Miami

Cincy (cheap)
Cleveland

Indy
Jax
(Tenn & Houston are questionable )

Oakland
Sd (haven't won in a long time ownership is whacko)

Dallas (owner)
Wash (owner)
(Philly is questionable because if terrible frontboffice)

Detroit
Chicago
(Minn shaky owner )

Tampa
Saints (can't even sustain winning with Payton)

Sf based on this discussion
LA
(Arizona borderline)

So that leaves these as the only jobs

NE
Pitt
Baltimore
Denver
KC
Giants
GB
Minnesota?
Carolina
Atlanta
Seattle
Houston?tennesee?

So we are saying there are only between 10 and 13 viable jobs.
With the cischjng situation in place in each of those teams there may not be an opening for at least 3 years and if there were it would be. Cause the team fell apart.

Are we really saying that McDaniel should turn down jobs until these come open and hope he is the one they choose?
I think if he takes that approach he may never be a HC.

 

[Ring 6]

BB will retire within five years. He's said more than once he won't be coaching at 70.

He said it once, off the cuff.

Are you really suggesting that McDaniels career path should be hide in NE and hope he gets the job when BB retires?
If that's what he is made of it won't matter he will fail.

 

[Ring 6]

Mcdaniels will not go to the niners.
By the way the Niners are having a second interview with Shanahan

He will if they offer him the job. I'm not confident they are going to offer him the job.

 

[Tunescribe]

He said it once, off the cuff.

Are you really suggesting that McDaniels career path should be hide in NE and hope he gets the job when BB retires?
If that's what he is made of it won't matter he will fail.

He's said it more than once and not just "off the cuff." Are you really counting on BB coaching into his seventies? I'm not suggesting McDaniels do anything, but it wouldn't surprise me if he and BB had an understanding.

 

[Love The Drake]

He will if they offer him the job. I'm not confident they are going to offer him the job.

The Niner website is showing Mcdaniels and has a article about Steve Young praising the supposed Mcdaniels hire.
Maybe they already have a agreement but they are still interviewing HCs and GMs
Shanahan Is having a second interview with San Fran lets hope he wows them.

 

[SEA_Pat]

I still think he wants to break Shula's all-time win record. I hope he does it while Shula's alive.

 

[Tony2046]

You can only take the jobs that are offered.

He's young. There are an average of 6-8 HC firings every year. He doesn't have to work for Capt Affluenza.

 

[Ring 6]

He's said it more than once and not just "off the cuff." Are you really counting on BB coaching into his seventies? I'm not suggesting McDaniels do anything, but it wouldn't surprise me if he and BB had an understanding.

I think you are wrong. He said one time quite a few years ago "I don't think you'll see me coaching in my 70s like Marc levy". He hasn't said anything about it since.

I just cannot imagine a coach with the competitive drive it takes to be an NFL HC thinking they are afraid to fail in an imperfect situation so they will only work for the best franchise in the league and wait it out until BB retires.

Besides if he were going to do that why take 3 interviews and waste time you could be using to prepare for the playoffs?

 

[Ring 6]

He's young. There are an average of 6-8 HC firings every year. He doesn't have to work for Capt Affluenza.

No one else has offered him a job. If you rule out 2/3 of the jobs the other 1/3 rarely come open.

 

[Love The Drake]

Patricia could be the HC of the future.
Has a nice ring Patricias Pats

 

[fnordcircle]

I still think he wants to break Shula's all-time win record. I hope he does it while Shula's alive.

Same - I think as long as that title is within reasonable reach it gets harder to retire. It was silly to think about 4-5 years ago, but now it's only sort of unrealistic. In 3-5 years it'll be on the horizon. For a student of football history like BB I think it is going to become very tantalizing to do something that might cement his status as greatest of all time with no real chance of being challenged for decades.

 

[Ring 6]

Patricia could be the HC of the future.
Has a nice ring Patricias Pats

That is more likely.
I think McDaniels is more likely to get offered a job. Patricia may not get an offer any time soon.
People act like every team has these guys at the top of the list and beg them to become their HC but that's not the case.

 

[Tunescribe]

I think you are wrong. He said one time quite a few years ago "I don't think you'll see me coaching in my 70s like Marc levy". He hasn't said anything about it since.

You mean Marv Levy. He said it during his NFL Films documentary and two other times that I recall -- once during his Monday weekly WEEI stint not long ago, the other time I can't place at the moment.

I just cannot imagine a coach with the competitive drive it takes to be an NFL HC thinking they are afraid to fail in an imperfect situation so they will only work for the best franchise in the league and wait it out until BB retires. Besides if he were going to do that why take 3 interviews and waste time you could be using to prepare for the playoffs?

Simple: you take the interviews as due diligence in case someone offers you the moon; otherwise, you continue doing what makes you happy in a great situation. That would be no reflection on his "competitive drive" or suggest an irrational fear of failure.

 

[Ring 6]

You mean Marv Levy. He said it during his NFL Films documentary and two other times that I recall -- once during his Monday weekly WEEI stint not long ago, the other time I can't place at the moment.

of course that was a typo.
Can you give a link to him saying that more than once because that is the first I have ever heard and this is discussed often here.

Simple: you take the interviews as due diligence in case someone offers you the moon; otherwise, you continue doing what makes you happy in a great situation. That would be no reflection on his "competitive drive" or suggest an irrational fear of failure.

If you aren't taking any job other than replacing belichick, which is the theory here, you don't take interviews.
It certainly would conflict with the competitive drive successful HCs have to happily sit as an assistant and pass up HC jobs because you will only work for the top franchise and are afraid to fail.

 

[Bill Lee]

SF's owner seems to have questionable decision making. But even if Josh fails thats 2 head coaching contracts so he is already set for life. He can always go back to being a coordinator if it doesn't work out. But if your Josh .. do you really want to roll the dice with that owner??

You're answering your own question: take the job and you're set for life...

Josh himself made it clear that there's no "succession plan" here in NE and he's not planning on waiting around till BB retires, he wants to be a head coach as soon as he finds a job he wants.

Personally I don't think SF will end well for him. The owner's a flake and the roster has crap for talent. However if he gets a contract with $millions guaranteed I'm sure he'd take it.

Also what's up with the whole JG narrative? SF is so poor on talent JG is more or less of no use to them now and for a season or two more. If Josh learned anything from BB, he'd be trading down that SF first round pick rather than blowing this year's draft wad on JG.

I guess fantasy football has rotted people's brains...

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Mcdaniels will not go to the niners.
By the way the Niners are having a second interview with Shanahan

I would love for shanahan to go to San Fran,

Great place for him and his family.

 

[heavyde050]

I live in San Francisco now (my wife is a big Niners fan) and if Josh McD has to leave I want him in San Francisco.