Malcolm Butler receives a 3.4 grade from PFF, and is ranked the #1 NFL corner of Week 6

[manxman2601]

More anti-PFF trolling. Guys, we know you don't like them. You shouldn't feel the need to visit EVERY Pff thread and repeat that ad nauseum. If you don't think their insights have any value, just stay out of threads that reference them.

 

[Deus Irae]

More anti-PFF trolling. Guys, we know you don't like them. You shouldn't feel the need to visit EVERY Pff thread and repeat that ad nauseum. If you don't think their insights have any value, just stay out of threads that reference them.

BB is on WEEI today, and he's giving his take on non-specific (in other words, he didn't specifically name any) evaluation web sites. Those who are devotees of PFF might want to go to the transcript or audio, once WEEI puts it out later.

 

[manxman2601]

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[jah]

More anti-PFF trolling. Guys, we know you don't like them. You shouldn't feel the need to visit EVERY Pff thread and repeat that ad nauseum. If you don't think their insights have any value, just stay out of threads that reference them.

But the site is garbage and people who think it's useful are deluded.

 

[eom]

pff's sam monson on weei today

Pro Football Focus’ Sam Monson on D&C: Malcolm Butler has been better than Darrelle Revis

 

[chasa]

Yeah, I don't really understand Ryan sometimes. I would reach the exact same conclusion if not for the fact that he covered Demaryius Thomas so well just a few weeks ago. Seems strange that he could pull that off then perform much more inconsistently against DGB, an objectively worse receiver in almost every way. Maybe the core issue is that he just struggles with the combination of size and physicality, which would make sense since he's not a big guy. DT, for all his size, doesn't exactly get the most out of it by playing physically.

Having said all that, while Ryan did struggle a bit, considering the pure physical mismatch between DGB and him it could've been much worse. It remains troubling to me that we don't have a better option at corner for defending big, physical, athletic freaks at WR, even as that fear generally proves to be unfounded by the actual results when we play teams like the Jets and Broncos.

He had mccourty helping against thomas.

 

[Deus Irae]

From BB's interview yesterday:

Question

You know or one of the football analytic sites that are looking out over the weekend has US secondary ranked number one in the lead cannot while I admit that's subjective. This is coming off a year where your parting ways with four idea top five quarterbacks so just. What did you see in the players that you have that you felt confident Macon such as you know massive change of that one position.

BB's answer

Well hum. Here first of all the manager of the all due respect to those web sites bomb. You know I don't I don't really know how old some of that information is determined or evaluated. I know that in the past week we've looked at those web sites. Not anyone's in particular but just in general we've looked at those live slates and say okay. You know here's their top rated guy. You know where where we just it kind of just the kind of gauge where we feel like the value of the web sites are meant their rate in the same as we are then you know maybe that some we ought to keep close silence that track a lot of as there. There's a big discrepancy it and you know there really any name value and so. In I'd say a lot of that stuff that is that is in my opinion not real accurate. So. Take it with a grain of salt.

Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick on Patriots Monday

 

[oldrover]

From BB's interview yesterday:

You know where where we just it kind of just the kind of gauge where we feel like the value of the web sites are meant their rate in the same as we are then you know maybe that some we ought to keep close silence that track a lot of as there.

 

[Deus Irae]

Yeah.... there's a reason WEEI uses that disclaimer

Transcript - Not for consumer use. Robot overlords only. Will not be accurate.

They can get pretty brutal.

 

[Betterthanmost]

He has been named into the Pro Bowl. His story is what dreams are made off. Now please refer to him as the pro bolwer Malcolm Butler.
Now if his play continues improve, the angst becomes how much he would want to be paid.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Super Bowl hero and pro bowl player? simply amazing

Malcolm Butler = Dream Come True

 

[JMC00]

He had mccourty helping against thomas.

Ryan played him 1 on 1 more than he had safety help.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

 

[n1997y]

That's even more impressive!

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

pff's sam monson on weei today

Pro Football Focus’ Sam Monson on D&C: Malcolm Butler has been better than Darrelle Revis

He is the same turd who said Brady is no longer a top 5 QB before the 2014 season.

 

[strngplyr]

From BB's interview yesterday:

Question


BB's answer


Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick on Patriots Monday

Holy ****, help with the english! DI, if you read that with no ptoblems, than you're twice as ****ed up as I am!

 

[Deus Irae]

Holy ****, help with the english! DI, if you read that with no ptoblems, than you're twice as ****ed up as I am!

Having listened to the interview helped. In a nutshell, the Patriots compared the players they had rated as the best to the players "those websites" had rated as the best, and they found the websites to be "not accurate". Given what most of us know about "those sites", this should come as no surprise.

In an even smaller nutshell: PFF (the specific site that was deliberately not being named) is crap for analytics/ratings, and the Patriots know that.

 

[supafly]

Ryan played him 1 on 1 more than he had safety help.

I don't know about the rep breakdown with or without safety help, and I don't really care. What Logan Ryan (and company) did to Demarius Thomas was beautiful, and it's a complete travesty that we lost that game while basically shutting him out.

I've never been a huge Ryan supporter, but he's improved leaps and bounds this season in many areas.

 

[Danger Zone]

I don't know about the rep breakdown with or without safety help, and I don't really care. What Logan Ryan (and company) did to Demarius Thomas was beautiful, and it's a complete travesty that we lost that game while basically shutting him out.

I've never been a huge Ryan supporter, but he's improved leaps and bounds this season in many areas.

Travesty indeed.

In all the games where I thought we got screwed by officiating, its always been because of maybe 2-3 bad calls that went against us (unfairly in my view) at bad times.

But that Bronco game, utterly onesided with 6+ horrendous calls/no-calls. I've never once before actually thought the refs were out to screw us. At most, I suspected them of giving too much preference to the underdog teams (human nature if unfair to better teams).

I simply don't have words for that Bronco game. It the first/only game I came away with the very distinct impression that the refs were actively trying to make us lose.

 

[AzorianPats]

Chris Harris #4? He got roasted by any Steelers receiver that he covered.

Chris Harris only got roasted by 1 receiver, and that was Antonio Brown.

I actually rate Harris more then I do Talib. For some reason I see a lot of similarities between Butler and Harris.

With that, I feel Butler did a much better job on Brown week 1, his first game playing not only as a starter, but on an island vs arguably the best receiver in football, then a more experienced Harris did Sunday. Brown got the better of Butler, but Butler was there all game to make plays.

One thing you have to love about Butler is he's a gamer. Very short memory, he's gonna be a tough matchup for any receiver in the league. He's going to be special..