Juju fires back against Breer's explosive knee claim

[patfanken]

Irresponsible reporting and fear mongering perhaps but JuJu’s response didn’t make me feel all that much better. He didn’t come right on out and say “Dudes full of ****!” instead he went into some detail about his knee issues and said its getting stronger by the day. Sounds like he isn’t 100% to me, which the argument could be made that no NFL player is ever 100%. Slightly concerning though considering the lack of quality depth at the position.

Sorry but that's the kind of interpretation that sounds like you work in talk radio. You are basically giving credence to Breer simply because JJS chose to go into detail about his injury instead of blurting out "Dude's full of ****". Pardon me for JJS being articulate.

 

[patfanken]

Shrug. I appreciated the honesty about an injury, which we don't get very often.

I think Bourne, Boutte and DeMario are the quality depth. We don't usually carry six WRs. I feel better about our WRs this year.

We're back to 5 now Mike. Thorntons on IR as expected. We'll see him some time in October and who knows what the situation will be,

 

[Brotherblues]

Yeah the language used was very odd. It is "a mess" and "could explode at any time", as if it is a ticking time bomb. What in the world is that based on? Has he seen Juju's medical records?

Here's the annoying thing:

If Juju stays totally healthy for 3 years, Breer can brush it off by saying he only reported the knees *could* explode.

If Juju misses any time at all these next 3 years, Breer gets to play the "I told you so" card.

Peak ****ty journalism.

 

[mike_usagisan]

We're back to 5 now Mike. Thorntons on IR as expected. We'll see him some time in October and who knows what the situation will be,

Fair point. I treat the ones who are eligible to return like they're still on the roster, but you're right that until he comes back, we can't say for certain.

 

[Kontradiction]

Here's the annoying thing:

If Juju stays totally healthy for 3 years, Breer can brush it off by saying he only reported the knees *could* explode.

If Juju misses any time at all these next 3 years, Breer gets to play the "I told you so" card.

Peak ****ty journalism.

3 years? Very few people are going to remember that Breer said this in a month… regardless of what happens to his knee. Part and parcel of the never ending news cycle.

 

[Jim Beankie]

If I were JuJu, I'd Sun Tzu it...

 

[Dingleberry]

Sad reporting. I wish our sports journalists were as reliable and truthful as the regular news journalists.

 

[jimnance]

Breer is just bad juju

 

[Ian]

Breer is just bad juju

 

[jimnance]

You mocking my cornball humor?

 

[Ian]

I saw a few people bring this up in the other thread, but the thing I posted here, which I linked back to Darren's entry, was basically just pointing out his comment. After digging up the video and watching the report, it was something I hadn't heard and thought it was interesting. I had heard other guys in the media voice similar concerns, but that was prior to Breer's comment, and as much as people here don't like him, he is relatively plugged in around the league given what he's done since he took over for Peter King. Albeit, I don't think he fully thought it through before he said it.

One thing that was surprising was the fact the entry I posted ended up going viral, which was bizarre because I didn't post it on Twitter, and it only got a handful of referrals from our Facebook page. Instead, it got like 10s of thousands of views after hitting the top of the search engines in the news section, which makes zero sense because that rarely ever happens, even on things where a lot of effort has gone into it.

That absolutely caught me off guard, especially since I threw it together as I was heading out the door after I was just trying to post a few things to help boost traffic on the blog a bit for that day. His comment was something I hadn't heard, so it was just something I was passing along here.

Again, anyone wondering why reporters/writers say or write outlandish things, I guess that's the reason. Normal news reports get zero traffic. Opinions, even ones like that which were somewhat in passing (Again, I don't think Breer meant it to become what it became, and he just had that piece on Mac last week, which was great), are sadly what people read/click on.

Our blog gets a handful of views and is basically just me maintaining our little corner of the internet. I think anyone who sees the day-to-day stuff posted is aware it's certainly not a "look at me" type of thing. For those of you who are part of the literally dozens of people each day who do read it (@captain stone) , I appreciate it.

Just a little look at behind the curtain to show you the state of things these days. That's also why you've seen a shift in reporters moving more toward those roles because it's just impossible for them and anyone else to survive in this climate online otherwise, whether it be online or on-air. It is what it is.

 

[jlu52]

Here's the annoying thing:

If Juju stays totally healthy for 3 years, Breer can brush it off by saying he only reported the knees *could* explode.

If Juju misses any time at all these next 3 years, Breer gets to play the "I told you so" card.

Peak ****ty journalism.

When the dean of the genre has nicknames like Shank and CHB, is there any wonder that the disciples follow suit? I actually remember
when the Globe was a decent newspaper Yeah, it was a long time ago, I'm old

 

[Ian]

When the dean of the genre has nicknames like Shank and CHB, is there any wonder that the disciples follow suit? I actually remember
when the Globe was a decent newspaper Yeah, it was a long time ago, I'm old

But what's crazy when it comes to the Globe is that while they have Ben Volin (who obviously rubs people the wrong way) you've got Christopher Price, Jim McBride and Nicole Yang, all of which are solid reporters. The problem is, none of those three are opinion columnists, so you probably don't even see most of what they write because none of it makes enough noise to register on the radar.

Again, that's certainly part of the problem these days. And that's why it's always Volin who makes the headlines while those types of talented names hardly ever come up.

 

[jlu52]

But what's crazy when it comes to the Globe is that while they have Ben Volin (who obviously rubs people the wrong way) you've got Christopher Price, Jim McBride and Nicole Yang, all of which are solid reporters. The problem is, none of those three are opinion columnists, so you probably don't even see most of what they write because none of it makes enough noise to register on the radar.

Again, that's certainly part of the problem these days. And that's why it's always Volin who makes the headlines while those types of talented names hardly ever come up.

All good beat reporters. I would like Christopher Price to be a columnist, see some truth instead of the usual sensational crap.
Remember Ray Fitzgerald?

 

[Bill Lee]

but here's the thing about the state of sports reporting. There are no CONSEQUENCES for being wrong for these guys. Now Breer is on record about JJ's knee. Now and for the full season if ANYTHING goes wrong with JJ's knee, Breer can take a bw and take credit, regardless of whether it's because of the precondition. But if nothing goes wrong, the bad reporting gets ignored and life goes on. For Christ Sakes, Tomasi and Volin still have JOBS. You can pretty much claim anything these days and if you lie long and loudly enough you can make a lot of people believe it.

Indeed, not to mention Florio and Curran pushing the BILL IS PISSED line for months in the off season, for it all to disappear into nothingness the first day of training camp.

 

[Family]

Remember Ray Fitzgerald?

I was a copy boy and worked with (for) those guys.

 

[Bill Lee]

But what's crazy when it comes to the Globe is that while they have Ben Volin (who obviously rubs people the wrong way) you've got Christopher Price, Jim McBride and Nicole Yang, all of which are solid reporters. The problem is, none of those three are opinion columnists, so you probably don't even see most of what they write because none of it makes enough noise to register on the radar.

I don't see any of their stuff because it's behind a paywall and the Globe ain't worth paying a monthly fee for, IMO.

Back in the early days of the Internet there were attempts to create "pay by the page" models so you could look at an individual article for a few cents, but the model failed for a few different reasons, none of them technical.

It's a shame, because IMO we'd have a much better view of whom the public thought was writing stuff of value and who was not.

 

[Wax Frog]

One thing that was surprising was the fact the entry I posted ended up going viral, which was bizarre because I didn't post it on Twitter, and it only got a handful of referrals from our Facebook page. Instead, it got like 10s of thousands of views after hitting the top of the search engines in the news section, which makes zero sense because that rarely ever happens, even on things where a lot of effort has gone into it.

Come on, fess up - what was your one weird trick?

 

[patfanken]

Fair point. I treat the ones who are eligible to return like they're still on the roster, but you're right that until he comes back, we can't say for certain.

Yeah, We have at LEAST 5+ weeks to see how fast Boutte and Davis adjust to the bright lights. If they shine then if everyone else is healthy extend Thornton's IR to the point where someone goes down for any length of time. I think its a good situation.

Hard to believe you can find TWO WR's good enough in the 6th to make an NFL roster. Now either Bill is not the dunce of the draft as SOME would make him out to be, OR what I have been saying for years about WR's is true. Colleges pump out so many qualified prospects you can find them ALL over the draft and afterwards. I know like ANY position there are a very FEW guys that are special, but after that, the athletes are there, is just a matter of which ones can GROW and improve into quality NFL receivers.

 

[rochrist]

I think given the time missed and Breer's comments, that there is reason to believe JuJu's knee is not 100%, and may never be.
prudent to hang onto the 2 rookies and Thornton, given Parkers injury history and now JuJu's potential knee.
I had speculated that Thornton might have been a candidate to be exposed, but given the situation with JuJu/Parker, potential injury issues, Pats did the wise thing and exposed other players, not WR's.

What time missed? He hasn't missed any time since TC started and led the WRs in receptions.