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  1. TheRainMaker

    TheRainMaker In the Starting Line-Up

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    Could be one of the worst game plans by the Chargers. The Pats passing game was questionable at that time and was running heavy because of it. So you come out with 6-7 DB’s?
     
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    Michel/Burkhead/White would combine for 200+ yards on the ground.........

    BTW, this WILL still happen when AB does his act and we are left Gordon-Edelman-Meyers-Harry-Dorsett.

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    PatsFan2 Pro Bowl Player Weekly Picks Winner

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    Who??:confused:
     
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    THE CASE FOR THREE WR's INSTEAD OF FOUR

    When the OL has an LT off the street, there are some teams in the league that can put Brady on the ground. IMHO, we need a blocking TE (or Develin) on every play until Wynn comes back.
     
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    Pats1013 Rookie

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    don't need Gronk. Gronk needs Gronk. He had his day. Give him a statue. How much do we want out of a human being?
     
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    That same Formation with TE's Matt LaCosse or Ben Watson could be just as dangerous and more prominent against the run...I am sure LaCosse can over power a DB if we cross em up and run it.
     
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    QuantumMechanic Burn it all down! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Coming out with 6-7 DBs was fine. Staying with it time and time again was insanity.
     
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    ivanvamp In the Starting Line-Up

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    True. However, running against that is harder when you have 4 WR on the field, instead of 3 WR and Gronk.

    So I'd go with 6 DB plus your best coverage LB. I'd match up this way:

    CB1 on Edelman
    CB2 on Brown with S help
    CB3 on Gordon with S help
    CB4 on Dorsett
    LB on White

    I mean it's not ideal, but hey you gotta do something. I'd also try to put as much pressure on Brady up the middle as possible, or attack NE's weakest OL with your best pass rusher. Hope to get to Brady and force some mistakes.

    The real problem is that you also have to score against the Pats' defense, which so far has proved to be nearly impossible.

    But we KNOW that the Patriots aren't unbeatable. There will be a game this year when the Pats make some mistakes. Say, a Brady strip sack, a Brady tipped pass INT, two Ghost missed FG, a big play on special teams, and suddenly you're up 23-21 late in the game, hoping to hold the Pats off. That's probably what it's gonna take.
     
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    He already is. Saw plenty of that in TC, and my conclusion is that they're keeping that part of his game under wraps until late in the season.
     
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    Tuck Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    The pass catching talent is impressive but I will feel a lot better when they show they can handle a good pass rush and press coverage. So far they look like they can handle the press but we really don't know if this O line can handle a good pass rushing Defense and keep Brady upright.
     
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    Hell Moss would be wide open in this offense right now
     
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    Cool new toy but may be taken away by Mommy and Daddy :(
     
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    Simple counter:

    Edelman or Brown in motion

    That leaves a 1-on-1 with either of 2 players who are quick opens and also capable of winning over the top if their defender stays up on them and can't get the early bump.
     
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    So would Ted Washington.
     
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    4 WRs
    1 RB
    1 TE
    1 QB

    4 OL

    Let’s just substitute all the OL
    They’re gonna get hurt anyways
     
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    IcyPatriot Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter Weekly Picks Winner

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    We'll see how it goes ...
    There will be emphasis on a huge up the middle pass rush.
    If AB and Jules are both in the slot Brady has short pass options with YAC potential.
     
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    Ring 6 PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club

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    The first thing i would do is look at how Belichick defends 5 wides or 4 and a RB because we use that personal group both ways.

    The way we are defending that may be more impressive than the way we are running it.
     
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    He's also a hard worker, great teammate, etc. and was given every opportunity to succeed as a first-round pick. So the mystery is, why did Dorsett only average 24 catches for 309 yards over his first 4 seasons?
     
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    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

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    • Year one was his rookie year. Most rookie WRs struggle.
    • Year two was a progression year. He had 33 catches on 59 targets, averaging 16 y/c.
    • BUT.... he was being looked at as TY Hilton, part two, and he didn't improve fast enough.
    • Year 3 was year one in NE, when he came in late and never really got into the system. Unlike Gordon/Brown, he wasn't getting force fed.
    • Year 4 was last year, where he was a big part of the offense, until Gordon's arrival.
    • Year 5 is off to a good start (7 targets, 7 receptions, 134 yards, 2 TDs).


    Significant, I think, is the consistent improvement of his catch %:

    46.2
    55.9
    66.7
    76.2
    100 (obviously a small sample size, and almost certainly destined to fall, but still)
     
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  20. cscirpoli

    cscirpoli Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Excellent? The dudes hands are from another world. He's caught the last 24 or 25 balls thrown his way.
     
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