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JC Jackson has the best passer rating allowed in the NFL

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And yet he's drafted NINE quarterbacks since Brady:

2002 - Rohan Davey
2003 - Kliff Kingsbury
2005 - Matt Cassel
2008 - Kevin O'Connell
2010 - Zac Robinson
2011 - Ryan Mallett
2014 - Jimmy Garoppolo
2016 - Jacoby Brissett
2018 - Danny Etling

They also brought in Major Applewhite, Matt Gutierrez, and Brian Hoyer in as UDFAs, and the latter two spent 2+ seasons with the team.
 
What most fans don't realize is that there's really only a handful of teams (including the Pats) that still have their own fully-staffed, independent scouting departments. Most NFL teams rely primarily on "outsourced" scouting reports from one or both of the two major scouting co-ops. So do the network draft analysts.

As an aside, the mission of the Patriots scouts is to scout every senior and every player expected to declare.
 
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There are two major scouting services that NFL teams use including National and Blesto.

According to a recent report from DraftDaddy.com, there are only five teams that are not affiliated with any team.

There are twelve teams in BLESTO (ATL, BUF, CHI, CLE, DAL, DET, HOU, JAC, MIA, MIN, NYG, PIT).

There are fifteen subscribers to the National (AZ, CAR, CIN, DEN, GB, KC, NO, NYJ, PHI, STL, SD, SF, SEA, TB, TEN). National Scouting also is the logistical organizer of record for the event in Indianapolis.

Five teams out of the thirty-two NFL teams are unaffiliated with either scouting combine organization: Baltimore Ravens, Indianapolis Colts, New England Patriots, Oakland Raiders and Washington Redskins.<<<<<<
Is this current?
 
He got beat on a handful of slants and short passes today. He wasn't awful but not what we've been treated to these last few weeks

It looked to me like the Pat were playing a much higher percentage of simple, soft zone ("prevent") than they have in the past few weeks. Maybe the idea was to limit big plays and YAC while pressuring Darnold into effing up. Even Crossen seemed to be out there in coverage quite a bit.

Anyway, Jackson got "beat" in the sense of allowing completions, but was still right there with the quick tackle after those catches, most of the time, at least.

@supafly
 
Tony, Ivanvamp...you are dealing with this type of personality disorder...NPD. It's basically fruitless to argue with a narcissist. Better off just agreeing with everything he posts and leave it at that. No point trying to reach what can never be reached.

A need for excessive praise and attention
This is another trait that suggests narcissists aren’t as secure as they seem. Despite their professed beliefs in their own superiority, they need constant validation and reinforcement to support their high opinions of themselves. They believe they’re entitled to such treatment because of their superior talents and abilities, but if praise doesn’t come it leaves them feeling anxious and depressed.

When others fail to express their gratitude or admiration, people with NPD take great offense and feel underappreciated. Unfortunately for their loved ones, narcissists are almost never satisfied with the amount of attention they receive and constantly believe they deserve more.

Arrogant and judgmental in attitude
NPD sufferers tend to see the world in simplistic, extreme terms. They see themselves as supreme and their rivals or enemies (whoever they might be) as inferior and deserving of rejection or criticism.

Their arrogance is a natural reflection of their assumed superiority, and they judge others as a way to elevate themselves. Some who are included in their inner circles are treated better, but narcissists are easily disillusioned by others and frequently reject people they once embraced.


Insistence on associating only with other special people
In line with their belief in their own power and importance, narcissists prefer to associate only with those they consider to be nearly equal in stature. Being in the presence of people who are accomplished and respected helps bolster their sense of superiority and worthiness.

Unfortunately for NPD sufferers, the people they admire often don’t share those feelings. When narcissists are rejected by those with status it can cause a crisis of confidence, although the narcissist will try to repress rather than acknowledge those feelings.

Preoccupied by fantasies of great achievements, power, or recognition
Narcissists believe it is their destiny to be fabulously successful, in every area of life. When the success they expect is slow to come they may retreat into a fantasy world, where they are praised and admired and acknowledged as special by everyone.

From the narcissist’s perspective, these fantasies seem achievable and realistic, possibly even preordained. But as time passes and their fantasies don’t come true, they may become bitter and begin taking out their frustrations on family and friends. Rather than facing the truth about their limitations, they look for scapegoats to blame for their failures.

Feelings of inferiority, insecurity, and low self-esteem, and an extreme need for the approval of others
It is important to recognize the split nature of narcissistic personality disorder. The narcissist’s apparently sincere belief in their own superiority is actually a coping mechanism that helps shield them from their deep-seated insecurities and poor self-esteem.

This is why narcissists are so desperate to be acknowledged and praised by other people. They rely on that reinforcement to silence their inner voices, which seek to undermine their self-confidence and cast doubt on their true worthiness.

How da f**k did you get inside my head like that??
 
The outsourced scouting is clueless yet employed and utilized by other NFL teams. Those teams blindly accept their recommendations. Correct? Or is it that teams get lists from these outsourced scouts and further evaluate their potential prospects?

I realize that you were being snarky with this, but I thought it was worthy of discussion.

I didn't intend to imply that the co-op scouts are "clueless" or that the teams who primarily rely on the co-op reports accept their recommendations blindly. Most, if not all, such teams certainly have at least some internal scouts and evaluators who "filter" the co-op lists through some sort of criteria and then probably dig a little deeper on the prospects who make it through their filter. These evaluators probably also have their own personal connections with various college coaches who may be sources for "tips" on prospects who haven't been well-covered by the co-op reports, and who may provide deeper background on those prospects who are.

One of the important advantages for teams with their own fully-staffed scouting departments, aside from more direct observation of more prospects, is that that scouts are more or less filtering their observations through what they know about the characteristics that make for a good fit with their specific team. This is perhaps especially true when the evaluators have not only been with the team for a few years, but have also been on the field to observe their own teams, if not actively participated in coaching.

The co-op scouts simply can't provide the same depth of understanding for each specific team. Their evaluations are likely to be much more generic, and they may miss, or misinterpret/mis-communicate characteristics that may be of crucial importance to one specific team, but not to others.

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Another thing to consider is that there may be a strong correlation between those teams that primarily rely on co-op reports, and those teams whose owners and/or GMs decide which players the coaching staff is going to be working with - without much input from the coaches themselves - especially for 1st-round and 2nd-round picks.

It's with these teams that the effects of NPD (or fear of losing a GM job) may influence how much coaching time and attention (and discipline) prospects receive after they've been drafted. In such situations, a draftee's "pedigree" (and an owner's/GM's NPD-induced or fear-induced aversion to being "wrong") may determine how many more 1st-team reps, and how many game snaps, high draft picks receive versus Day-3 picks. Rookies who may need developmental opportunities the most, may be deprived of them due to such enforced attention disparities based on draft pedigree. This may sometimes even continue long after the higher pedigreed prospect has shown less development than expected (sunk cost bias).

Circling back around, this, in turn, may inadvertently skew the "success" rate for prospects who are drafted earlier. IOW, to some degree, they get more coaching and snaps because they're supposed to be "better".
 
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There are two major scouting services that NFL teams use including National and Blesto.

According to a recent report from DraftDaddy.com, there are only five teams that are not affiliated with any team.

There are twelve teams in BLESTO (ATL, BUF, CHI, CLE, DAL, DET, HOU, JAC, MIA, MIN, NYG, PIT).

There are fifteen subscribers to the National (AZ, CAR, CIN, DEN, GB, KC, NO, NYJ, PHI, STL, SD, SF, SEA, TB, TEN). National Scouting also is the logistical organizer of record for the event in Indianapolis.

Five teams out of the thirty-two NFL teams are unaffiliated with either scouting combine organization: Baltimore Ravens, Indianapolis Colts, New England Patriots, Oakland Raiders and Washington Redskins.<<<<<<


Thank you!

It should be noted that the invitees to the Indy "showcase" COMBINES the top propect lists from Blesto and National - hence the name of the event.

It should also be noted that the above is pretty much a copy-pasta of a Wiki page entry that was made at least a decade ago.

Since then, ATL has added a somewhat more substantial in-house scouting dept. under Dimitroff. From what I understand, Quinn has been building more of an in-house presence in DET (less ownership interference since WCF died). Newsome kept a full dept. going in BAL, but I don't know if that changes with his retirement.

GBY and PIT have traditionally done more in-house scouting than many of their other co-op members.

Also, it's not as if the Pats have zero access to the reports from Blesto and National, and/or ignore them entirely.
 
For a 77 year old woman?? WTF??...
77 is too old. I was just joking about Pelosi. She's an old hag

My mom's friend who was 67 needed a double mastectomy. After her chemo was done and was in remission she got a boob job and a facelift. She was always in good shape. She looked good. Too good.
 
It looked to me like the Pat were playing a much higher percentage of simple, soft zone ("prevent") than they have in the past few weeks. Maybe the idea was to limit big plays and YAC while pressuring Darnold into effing up. Even Crossen seemed to be out there in coverage quite a bit.

Anyway, Jackson got "beat" in the sense of allowing completions, but was still right there with the quick tackle after those catches, most of the time, at least.

@supafly
Agree. I think Reiss was harsh. JC was fine.
 
I'm still waiting for Bacon Bits to answer these questions I posed back on Saturday (post #158):

1. Why do you think the NFL has worse teams pick ahead of better teams in the draft? Why does the worst team pick first in each round and the best team pick last?

2. If you gave any NFL head coach or GM the opportunity to pick in any of the 32 spots in each round, where would they pick and why? Where's the LAST place they'd choose to pick and why? (And where would YOU prefer to pick, Mr. Bacon, and why?)

Forum friends, note that for all his bluster, he hasn't yet given these questions a shot. I know he knows better than all of us and all of the current NFL GMs (including BB), so I know I'd certainly appreciate his highly informed and knowledge-based answers to these questions.
 
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