Jamie Collins takes a shot at Pats on Instagram?

[mosslost]

I get it.... "he gets paid way more than me, so I don't feel the need to empathize."

Tell me though, if you found out you would make between $5mil and $100mil on a contract between 1 and 6 years based on your performance over a 6 month span, that those differences wouldn't f*** with your head a little. I would like to think that I would stick with what got me there, but I could see how some people would overthink it and ruin their chances.

We're talking all college education, housing etc paid for down through to your great great grandkids. Esp considering where a lot of these guys come from, it's a lot of pressure.

I understand math. Your post changes nothing. If he ****ed up his one chance its on him and he blew it. I have no reason to be empathetic.

 

[n1997y]

So you suspect Collins wanted himself to be the highlight ? Instead of the team-first BB style ?

duh. why else would he insist on freelancing in the face of coaching corrective attempts? when he hadn't had that problem before his contract year, seems more than just coincidence.

 

[n1997y]

Actually, I don't think he will be getting his money. His play has been questionable in Cleveland. If anything, I think by trading him to the Browns, the Pats destroyed his future.

No, he destroyed his future by first washing out with the Pats and then by tanking when he was traded to Cleveland.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Come on, you can't actually believe this isn't =, at least in part, a zinger toward the Patriots?

I think it was Chris Rock who said nothing good happens from an ATM cash withdrawal after midnight. Add to that there is nothing good about social media writing about your former team.
Directions for JC: work diligently on honing your skills, enjoy it as much as possible while you do it, maximize your next contract for money and environment, secure you and your family's financial future, shut up about the Patriots/former team, enjoy. In 4 years rinse and repeat.

 

[chasa]

jamie collins being in BB's doghouse still surprises me. A few years ago in the AFCCG after Collins intercepted Luck, he went to the bench and BB walked right up to him, patted him hard on the shoulder pads and said "thats why you're here." can't believe what has transpired since.

its been bonkers

three players i thought would be around for a while were just gone basically overnight in Stork, Collins, and Chandler jones

I felt like we had such a strong core of young guys, and half way through the season they're all just gone.

 

[n1997y]

its been bonkers

three players i thought would be around for a while were just gone basically overnight in Stork, Collins, and Chandler jones

I felt like we had such a strong core of young guys, and half way through the season they're all just gone.

Stork was health related, that's always a risk. Chandler and Jamie were character flaws, and those aren't easily seen from outside. Well until they start running the streets in their birthday suit that is. Those two had so much talent it was tolerable until it started to affect the rest of the team. That's where the guys like Willie and Tedi and Big Vince are missed, and that lack also no doubt affects Sheard and Branch. Glad his old teammates still like Jamie enough to approve of his post, as long as they don't decide to follow his program instead of BB's.

 

[deroc5050]

Stork was health related, that's always a risk. Chandler and Jamie were character flaws, and those aren't easily seen from outside. Well until they start running the streets in their birthday suit that is. Those two had so much talent it was tolerable until it started to affect the rest of the team. That's where the guys like Willie and Tedi and Big Vince are missed, and that lack also no doubt affects Sheard and Branch. Glad his old teammates still like Jamie enough to approve of his post, as long as they don't decide to follow his program instead of BB's.

Did Chandler draw alot of double teams? I honestly don't remember that much, I remember seeing him get no where near the QB for 85-90% of plays and then he would break free and get 1 or 2 sacks in a game.

I think they traded him because he never got consistent QB hurries and hits. He got his sacks but that can be misleading along with just about any individual stat.

 

[patfanken]

In a league where the margin between victory and defeat is marginal at best. In a league where EVERYONE is a great athlete who are being trained by the finest trainers, and coached by the best coaches. And victory can be decided by a bad call, non-call, a good bounce or a bad bounce, a great individual play, or a an equally bad one, there is only ONE reason for the Pats extraordinary consistent success.

And that my friends is the unique system of coaching and training that the players who represent us go through to prepare for the season and the regular season schedule. BB has been up front for a long time, in saying that this system is not for everyone. Not making it here does NOT make you a bad person, or a bad football player. It simply means this system is NOT for you.

From what I can gather, it requires players to make more individual sacrifices that most programs. It requires players to spend more time, and demands more focus and discipline than a lot of players. I would contend that a great player like Dez Bryant would have failed here, maybe not now, but definitely when he first came out. Still doesn't mean he's a bad guy, or a bad player. Just not a fit HERE.

Jaime Collins, somewhere along the line, made a concious decision to go down a different path. I personally think that wasn't a sudden switch in priorities for him, but rather something that had been building up over a long period of time. At some point this season it must have started to effect the locker room and THAT's why the made the trade. I think BB could have dealt with the inconsistent play for another 10 games if that was all there was to it. But once BB felt that Collins was a threat to the single minded direction of the team, Collins had to go, and go now.

It is my speculation that Collins had decided that he wasn't coming back to NE, mostly due to not liking living in NE for more than half the year. I think that once he had made that decision he gradually lost focus and his play declined a bit. When that happened the coaches responded, and I don't think Collins responded well to the hard coaching. I think he tended to take it personally. This further accelerated his performance decline as he started to tune out the coaches.

But like I said, he was in his last season. He was a well liked and respected player. So they certainly could have weathered that situation for the rest of the season and just parted ways. However BB must have felt that Collins' unhappiness had reached a point where it could have affected the locker room and moved immediately to excorcise him from the team.

While it's true that they came away with more draft assets, sooner, that would have gotten if just walked, I doubt that was why they made this trade. They were just trying to make the best of a bad situation.

Collins is a physical freak, so I don't doubt he'll get his big pay day, nor will I be surprised if he has a few "all pro" seasons playing for someone else where he is happier. But I honestly feel BB did the right thing getting him out of town, IF he was a threat to split the locker room with his unhappiness in being here.
He saw in 2009 what the results of that can be when that happens

As far as the OP - What he sent out could certainly be interpreted as a slap in the face to the Pats, but it could just as easily not be. Why would I care one way or the other? Jaime Collins isn't on this team anymore.

 

[BradyFTW!]

If so, he's gotta be the only Brown happy to be there.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Stork was health related, that's always a risk. Chandler and Jamie were character flaws, and those aren't easily seen from outside. Well until they start running the streets in their birthday suit that is. Those two had so much talent it was tolerable until it started to affect the rest of the team. That's where the guys like Willie and Tedi and Big Vince are missed, and that lack also no doubt affects Sheard and Branch. Glad his old teammates still like Jamie enough to approve of his post, as long as they don't decide to follow his program instead of BB's.

What was wrong with Chandler? From my perspective, we got four good years out of him, and we traded him while we could still get value for him. He didn't do anything too wrong, he's still a really good player, and he was a good pick. The trade appears to have been entirely about "we have too many good players coming up on free agency and too little money to go around", and nothing particularly negative about Jones.

The closest thing to a negative that we can reasonably assume about him seems to be that he's not as important as Hightower. Also that he falls in that awkward range where he isn't an absolute game-changing superstar, but he is good enough that some incompetent team run by idiots can convince themselves he might be one and pay him as such in FA. Kinda like Mike Wallace a couple years back when the Dolphins handed him a blank check.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Harmon liking Collins tweet. Bye bye Harmon

 

[meatface]

Who cares?

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[Wordsmyth]

What was wrong with Chandler? From my perspective, we got four good years out of him, and we traded him while we could still get value for him. He didn't do anything too wrong, he's still a really good player, and he was a good pick. The trade appears to have been entirely about "we have too many good players coming up on free agency and too little money to go around", and nothing particularly negative about Jones.

The closest thing to a negative that we can reasonably assume about him seems to be that he's not as important as Hightower. Also that he falls in that awkward range where he isn't an absolute game-changing superstar, but he is good enough that some incompetent team run by idiots can convince themselves he might be one and pay him as such in FA. Kinda like Mike Wallace a couple years back when the Dolphins handed him a blank check.

He made the police blotter, remember? That's not the Patriots Way.

 

[PScottman]

No, he destroyed his future by first washing out with the Pats and then by tanking when he was traded to Cleveland.

I doubt it. He'll get maybe a million less per year on a still very big contract, but will still get the payday because all coaches (ours included) have the required ego to believe they can fix player desire.

He's now looking like the type player that will go sign with a Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Denver or the Jets...show spurts for them occasionally, but absolutely play balls out versus the Patriots every time.

 

[Jackson 2]

What was wrong with Chandler? From my perspective, we got four good years out of him, and we traded him while we could still get value for him. He didn't do anything too wrong, he's still a really good player, and he was a good pick. The trade appears to have been entirely about "we have too many good players coming up on free agency and too little money to go around", and nothing particularly negative about Jones.

The closest thing to a negative that we can reasonably assume about him seems to be that he's not as important as Hightower. Also that he falls in that awkward range where he isn't an absolute game-changing superstar, but he is good enough that some incompetent team run by idiots can convince themselves he might be one and pay him as such in FA. Kinda like Mike Wallace a couple years back when the Dolphins handed him a blank check.

Showing up bare-ass at the Foxboro Police station buzzed out of your brain on synthetic weed surrendering with your hands in the air the week before a playoff game seems significant to me. But, that's just me. It may seem normal to some folks, but to me it seems just a touch outside the realm of normal, expected behavior from an employee.

 

[Bill Lee]

In today's social media environment, "thank God I’m not where I used to be" is definitely a shot at the Patriots, especially when he tagged at least one ex-Patriot.

I think he and his career would have been in a better place if he could have made things work in New England, but unfortunately he could not.

On some of the podcasts I listen to, I hear a lot more comments about the strong plays he's made in CLE rather than the weak ones.

He will be paid, big time. It only takes one or two out of the 32 to pony up the big bucks, and I'm sure some weaker team will do so. Then he'll be getting the big bucks and playing under less pressure than he had in New England. He will be following the same path taken by Darelle Revis.

 

[PatsBoy12]

I really think he's talking about his own personal life journey.

 

[mosi]

No, he destroyed his future by first washing out with the Pats and then by tanking when he was traded to Cleveland.

Yes, my wording was wrong and agree with this. The Pats gave him every opportunity and HE blew it. At the same time, if he had shown heart and fight with the Browns, the money would have flowed.

 

[Sicilian]

Anyone who thinks this is definitely a shot against the Patriots, no question, probably doesn't use social media that much. Because everyone has that one friend on Facebook who will post a picture that says something stupid like, "Sometimes, when you lose someone you love, it just shows you the people in your life who love you more." So you ask them what happened, and they say, "Oh nothing, I just like the quote."

Now if it came back that it WAS a shot against the team, I wouldn't be shocked. But people post DRIVEL on social media all the time, just because they think it makes them deep.

 

[captain stone]

I'd still rather have Jamie Collins on my team - issues and all - then the overpaid, underperforming
Shea McClellin.