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Isaiah Wynn.....and a rant


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our WR situation is much brighter than this time last year.

I could see b1tching about TE, that's about it..........
 
our WR situation is much brighter than this time last year.

I could see b1tching about TE, that's about it..........

Yep, as I said after the Lions game, I feel oddly confident in the new WR corps--despite having little idea of whom it will actually consist of. :)

At TE, the main move the Patriots could have made was spending their 2nd rounder there rather than on DB Williams. But there really wasn't a classic inline TE available at that point in the draft. Irv Smith may end up to be a missed opportunity I guess, but he left the entire Patsfans draft community with a collective "meh."
 
Should just pay attention to the draft forum tbh. We've/I've been talking up Wynn's feet, balance & toughness long before anyone on TV.

Had him graded slightly lower than Nelson. I expected him to be great.

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I hope people are connecting the dots here in regards to the LT situation. I haven't heard this but it should be noted. Bill has np letting Nate & Brown reset or flood the market w more money bc he knows QBs have more to do w sacks than OL. Bill is perfectly happy letting Scar work his magic & having Brady there makes all the difference in the world.
 
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BTW- I would have had a link to the clip if I knew how to do it, but its on the NESN site. Also there is something wrong in a name that has 3 consecutive vowels in the middle, right? ;)


Just copy the video URL and paste it here - it should embed. (See the example above)
 
Curran has definitely been "different" the past 4-6 months.

Deffo not the same reliable reporter he was. The last one was what ? Mayo will be the next HC? Mayo hasn't even been a NFL coach for a single minute in the regular season. He's lost it...and me.
 
Volin > Curran
 
Clearly we have been remiss in our obligations and it is time for an intervention. Friends don't let friends Sportshub "day in and day out".

I'm sorry we have failed you Ken

I think I also need to take some responsibility. Many times I've seen Ken admit to being a regular listener to "sports talk radio" but I sat idly by and did nothing.
 
Ken. Please relax! We want you to be healthy so that you can keep posting here!

As a recently retired Septuagenarian, I recommend the following, based on the fact that time is running out and that stress is bad: :(

1. Never listen to Talk Radio

2. Never watch LIVE TV except for NFL Football.

3. Never look or listen to TV ads or the "News".

4. Ignore all things political and the Stock Market. Don't look; don't listen. You cannot control it. Ignore it.

5. Start your day with patsfans.com and MikeReiss

Hope this helps.

PS: Don't forget to drink a lot! :D
 
As long as we're on a local media rant, here goes: Curran, on Boston Sports Tonight last evening, said (I'm paraphrasing) that it's not unreasonable to assume that Belichick's successor as head coach will be Jerrod Mayo. I guess I missed McDaniels' death notice in the newspaper. .I love Mayo and think he's a legitimate quality coaching prospect, but he hasn't coached a regular season game as linebackers coach. Based upon some of his recent takes, I think Tom E. (whom I like) fell of his bicycle and landed head first on the pavement.

This is the perfect case study for the difference between good sports journalism and click bait.

Option 1: "Jerod Mayo has the personal characteristics and football intelligence of a head coach. It isn't unreasonable to foresee him as a Belichick or McDaniels successor, depending on how all that falls over the next few years."

Option 2: "It isn't unreasonable to assume that Jerod Mayo will be the next Patriots head coach."

Completely different statements about what could be the same thing. One is observational, insightful, and useful, the other is dramatic and absurd. "It isn't unreasonable to assume" is the ultimate cop-out language, because it makes a statement that sounds like certainty but really is saying nothing.
 
to many coaches and GMs, WRs are shiny objects. BB says thats nice, but what else can they do
 
BTW, I'm actually OK if Wynn is a solid starting guard for a year or for more, and we need to move Thuney to LT. I guess that I haven't seen any evidence that Wynn could be a GREAT LT, but that isn't necessary. What we need for 2019 and 2020 is a solid starter.

Didn’t Logan Mankins play great at LT when we had to move him there briefly?
 
This just in...

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I hate it when someone beats me to a meme.....

My hat is off to you, Sir!
 
Comments:

a.) Someone here posted our WR depth chart as of August 16th, 2018:

Julian Edelman (Missed 4 games)
Chris Hogan (Was unsuited to be a #2)
Phillip Dorsett (We ended up relying on him for a few weeks)
Cordarrelle Patterson (Loved what he brought, but he did more on the ground/ST's)
Kenny Britt (Got cut)
Eric Decker (Retired)
Riley McCarron (Got cut after muffing a punt in week 1)
Braxton Berrios (IR)

Compare that to what we have now.

b.) At the end of last year, I felt that our offense was basically Edelman/Gronk/White in the air and Michel/Patterson/Burkhead on the ground. It was enough to win the Superbowl combined with great defensive play throughout the play-offs except for the 2nd half on the road @ Arrowhead. This year we have made these changes:

OT: Went from Brown to Wynn...and less depth. Still a question mark, but we could depend on Thuney if we needed to...
TE: No Gronk. TE by committee. And first 4 weeks are gonna be tough.
RB: We added even more here Harris who I think could see up to 80 carries and our plan to throw it more to Michel.
WR: We massively upgraded this off-season and likely will lean more on throwing it than last year.

c.) A couple of days ago, I saw this on twitter:



Just sayin'.....LOL
 
to many coaches and GMs, WRs are shiny objects. BB says thats nice, but what else can they do

How did head coaches and GMs get their jobs if they are enticed by shiny objects?

This is becoming too easy for the Patriots. Their only threat is the injury bug.

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I thought I'd start a thread to highlight a short video by Matt Chatham at NESN who extolled what he's seen of LT Isaiah Wynn. He marveled at his quick feet, and extolled his pad level and power against the hard rush. I have since read several others who pretty much were saying the same thing, pointing out many of the reasons the Pats made him their highest first round pick since Nate Solder at #17 though its kind of ridiculous to think that 23 as a high pick for the last decade, but I guess that's the pain of being a Pats fan. ;) ).

BTW- I would have had a link to the clip if I knew how to do it, but its on the NESN site. Also there is something wrong in a name that has 3 consecutive vowels in the middle, right? ;)

The point being that everyone legitimately viewed the LT position as being one of few question marks about this team. I know I did. Well, based on the limited reviews we've had, we can all breathe a little easier because it looks like not only will Wynn be our LT, he could be a GREAT one.

When he was first drafted a LOT of the pundits were saying that he's too short and light to be a LT in the NFL but was a perfect fit as a guard. I remember hearing the same thing about another Pats' LT when Matt Light was drafted. I remember posting that while Light was an adequate LT, he'd be an All Pro as a LG. Fortunately Bill wasn't watching the site that day and missed my suggestion. ;)

I was less fearful. I thought Wynn's lightning feet are made for today's game, where 4.6 edge rushers are becoming the norm. Quickness and athleticism are more and more becoming the prerequisites for great offensive linemen. Bulk and strength, while still important, are no longer the only requirements for the job. Granted his height and arm length are about 2-3 inches shorter than the ideal that we've come to expect, but I believe strongly that elite foot speed, agility, and technique beat that minor defect.

Hopefully he will get a series or two on Saturday and make me look like a prophet instead of a fraud. ;)

Now we pause this post for a RANT!

If you caught the talk show circuit the last few days the media's narrative has taken 2 pathways. First, that the Pats were negligent this off season when they didn't sign anyone significant at WR. Second, that the Pats are setting up Brady for failure by NOT providing him with any targets at WR and TE. These are both BULLSH!T narratives and I'm kind of getting pissed at having to hear them day in and day out.

The media (and that includes both national as well as local) has ALWAYS had a very distorted view of the value of WR's. Today Bertrand was saying, "hey, teams like the Falcons can afford to pay big bucks to assemble great WR's," My head almost exploded when I heard that "hot take" drivel.

Think about it. How many times have great WR's led their team to Superbowls. Sure the Falcons went to one with the highly paid Jones and Sanu, but clearly that was a one and done affair. How the F*CK can these local guys watch the last 20 years of Patriots football and come up with that kind of take. Think of all the great WR's who never even sniffed a ring. That number is far greater than the few who actually got one. Overpaying WR's, who if they touch the ball 10 times in a game is HUGE, has been the death knell for many a good team over the years. Often times these teams are paying ONE guy what the Pats are paying ALL their WR's.....and STILL we as Pats fans continually salivate when ANY WR becomes available.

Here are the facts. The WR talent the Pats have in this current TC is BETTER than what was there last season. You know the season where we WON as superbowl. :rolleyes: It's bigger, more athletic and more versatile. Harry looks like a keeper. Meyers looks a lot better than a "developmental guy". Harris and Inman have flashed, well enough to make a decent looking slot guy like Berrios in danger of not making the 53. Plus Gunner actually looks like a "developmental guy" worth a PS slot.
AND you have proven NFL quality WR's in Gordon, Thomas and Meredith waiting in the wings

Granted there are a bunch of these guys out with MINOR injuries, but Brady has gone on to win MANY MANY games with receiver corps a LOT worse and thinner than this one. The only FACTUAL complaint that can be made is that the injury situation has lessened the familiarity that the WR's will have with Brady. While the reality is, imho, the Pats will have to make some difficult cuts come September at WR and at least a couple of NFL quality WR's are going to be let go.

If you want proof that the WR hysteria is unjustified you just have to look at the last 2 practices the Pats had with one of the better secondaries in the conference. Based on all reports, the Pats moved the ball through the air far better than Titan with a WR group that included, Inman, Meyers, Berrios and a guy who was playing CB at freakin D-2 Bemiji State getting first team reps as a WR (AND impressing Malcom Butler)

Now a lot of that success had to do with the QB, of course. And it would have been better for him to be working with Harry etc. But the fact is they moved the ball. They were EFFECTIVE, with a WR group made up of guys who are unlikely to make the team, at least most of them. There IS no WR problem!!!!!

Rant over.
I am excited about Wynn too but we should see him play a game before we start talking about him being a great one.
 
Volin = jerkoff

If Volin was a landscaper he'd be a jerkoff

If Volin was a bar owner the name of the joint would be "Jerkoff's"..

If Volin owned a foreign car dealership it'd be called "Jagoff's"

If Volin was a urologist he'd be a major jerkoff AND a d!ck
 
How did head coaches and GMs get their jobs if they are enticed by shiny objects?

This is becoming too easy for the Patriots. Their only threat is the injury bug.

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I should have included owners as they're probably the worst offenders
 
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