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  1. maust1013

    maust1013 Just Another Guy PatsFans.com Supporter Weekly Picks Winner

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    There's nothing misleading about the score. It's why they put it up on the big board in the largest numbers. Don't believe it? How about this; "Stats are for losers. The final score is for winners. And that's what it's really all about."

    You might recognize the guy that said it...

     
  2. Ring 6

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    100% agree.
    But people who are fixated on stats are trying to use them to predict a game that hasn’t been played. In a sport like football it’s pretty useless because teams and matchups are so different.
     
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  3. maust1013

    maust1013 Just Another Guy PatsFans.com Supporter Weekly Picks Winner

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    If only there was an icon for that...;)

    It never ceases to amaze me that people that have had the benefit of watching a team that is so thoroughly matchup and gameplan specific fall into that habit. The Pats haven't won as much as they have because they've always had the better stats or talent but rather because they have leveraged favorable matchups better through their gameplanning and execution.
     
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  4. SBLIII

    SBLIII In the Starting Line-Up

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    Probably not but that's okay.
     
  5. glm

    glm In the Starting Line-Up

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    Is there really an argument that yards are more important than points? hahahahahaha
     
  6. Ochmed Jones

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    This defense is beyond amazing. The communication in the secondary is out of this world.

    mayo and bb jr. have done an incredible job.

    some of us were concerned when we lost a bunch of coaches in the offseason, but bb has brought in new coaches and we have not missed a beat. As a matter of fact, the new coaches with the holdovers have helped bring us to a new level.
     
  7. Drunken Cicerone

    Drunken Cicerone On the Roster

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    Theyre in the argument for best passing D all time. The numbers are obscene, especially in an era absolutely dominated by the pass. The run D is "ok"
     
  8. Viper652

    Viper652 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    2000 Ravens were better.

    Hell technically the 2000 Titans were better as well
     
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    sean10mm Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Ask me when they get a ring.
     
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    Pretty special but if it doesn’t get a championship it, doesn’t belong in the conversation as the clear cut best ever.

    I’d consider the 07 Pats as one of the greatest offenses of all time. Had they won pretty sure they would of gotten the stamp of approval by everyone as the best.

    However after time to reflect, the 07 offense had a flaw. It couldn’t run the ball when it mattered and it was it’s undoing.

    Need to see if this years defense can stop the run when it matters most.
     
  11. MrCasual

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    Can't be in the conversation when you let the Ravens bend you over and take you behind the barn. I am sure the chiefs will drop a nice 30 burger as well. Best defense against mediocre teams.
     
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  12. Clonamery

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    Great first post. Stick to Game Day Threads, please!!!
     
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  13. ivanvamp

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    2013 Seahawks pass D was incredible. Three players who are on the all-decade team (Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor). They allowed the following:

    - 59.0% completion
    - 16 td (3.1% td rate)
    - 5.8 y/a
    - 172.0 pass yds per game
    - 63.4 rating

    And they had:
    - 28 int
    - 44 sacks
    - 99 QB hits
    - 91 passes defended

    Compare those numbers to the Pats so far:
    - 53.9% completion
    - 4 td (1.1% td rate)
    - 5.4 y/a
    - 158.0 pass yds per game
    - 50.5 rating

    And they have:
    - 20 int (projects to 29)
    - 37 sacks (projects to 54)
    - 77 QB hits (projects to 112)
    - 67 passes defended (projects to 97)

    And this with "only" one "elite" defensive back, though I wouldn't be surprised if several others, when it's all said and done, garner much greater respect than they have now, because there's serious talent in the Pats' secondary.
     
  14. robertweathers

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    For your 1st post on this board that is what you choose to write?

    Good luck with your time here.
     
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    I am more than happy to be proven wrong and I will be the first to admit it if they can hold the Chiefs to 20 points or less.
     
  16. Clonamery

    Clonamery PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    You sound more like an angry cowboys fan.
     
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    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    yup, and the 1985 Bears and 2000 Ravens
     
  18. robertweathers

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    My god.
     
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    glm In the Starting Line-Up

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    Go rewatch the the Divisional playoff game and the AFC Championship from 2007
     
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    glm In the Starting Line-Up

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    The Cowboys were averaging 28.6 PPG before they played us and we literally didn't let them score a TD ;)
     
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