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Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Froob, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:39 AM.

  1. Ice_Ice_Brady

    Ice_Ice_Brady PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Wilson is a top 5 most overrated player in sports.

    Get back to me he leads anything close to an elite offense, ever. His champion teammates hate/d him.
     
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  2. PatsDeb

    PatsDeb PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Where is the "puzzled" emoji?
     
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  3. Boomer B

    Boomer B Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Reggie White, Marshall Faulk, Eric Dickerson, Deion Sanders, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens....
     
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  4. Boomer B

    Boomer B Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    I agree. When Seattle won it was with an all time great D and the best rushing attack in the league. Wilson wasn’t asked to do much. He needed to be babied by Pete Carrol which led to resentment amongst his teammates. He’s a good QB but he’s not as great as he’s made out to be.
     
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  5. reflexblue

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    Thats right the jete woun't trade darn-it, manush mehta of the NYDN rated him the top qb in football.o_O
     
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  6. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Is Wilson sitting out? I don't think so. Seattle should be ready to franchise him for 2 years if necessary.
     
  7. fair catch fryar

    fair catch fryar In the Starting Line-Up

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    I like Mahomes too, but I'm not ready to anoint him just yet. One hit can change all that. He still has a lot to learn.
     
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  8. Ice_Ice_Brady

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    Holy sh1t.
     
  9. Ivan

    Ivan Pro Bowl Player

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    I agree. Mahomes is really talented but his penchant for making blind throws will lead to big interceptions, and interceptions kill playoff runs.
     
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    I assume he means NYG and not the Jetes...
     

  11. UptownPatsFan

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    Russell Wilson hasn’t won anything since 2013; true. However, he’s an elite QB & is very underrated IMHO. He’s been carrying the SEA franchise ever since the LOB hey-days. Highly intelligent football player, extremely mobile, leadership ability, poised, tough, championship pedigree & can sling it with the best of them. His Achilles heal is fumbling. Yeah, Mahomes is exxxcellent, but he also fell into the perfect situation/scheme with Andy Reid, a loaded offense & D with 3 excellent pass rushers. Not ready to anoint him just yet. Remember, this is the proverbial “sophomore slump” year for Mahomes. His first year, he only played sparingly. Wilson has been CARRYING that franchise with like 2 weapons, no running game & NO O-LINE.
     
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  12. Biffins

    Biffins Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Dude, it’s one good season. Give me a break. It does Forehead a disservice. He’s 5-times NFL MVP.
     
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  13. Boomer B

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    He’s not a leader in anyway. That was made clear by everything that was coming out of Seattle the last few years.

    He’s been CARRYING them? To what exactly? They squeaked in a wild card spot last year and missed the playoffs the year before.
     
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  14. BelichicksHoodie

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    Did you see the numbers he put up? If Dee Ford didn’t lineup offside they were in the Super Bowl.....
     
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    Biffins Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    If Dee Ford didn't lineup offside maybe Brady doesn't get pressure from Dee Ford and doesn't toss it up to Gronk. Maybe Gronk is not distracted by the yellow flag thrown and easily catches the football.

    Let's not play the "if only" game.
     
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    Wheelman Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    God told Russell Wilson to do it. Just saying.
     
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  17. Hyped

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    I hope Seattle digs in their heels here, IMO.

    Tying a player's pay as a %-age of the cap will take away one thing that made the Pats very good the last 20 years...out smarting other teams in utilizing economical advantages.
     
  18. DW Toys

    DW Toys In the Starting Line-Up

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    OK Cousins, this is a 'tease" for my 10th annual DW Toys "Trade-A-Rama" but it makes sense.

    What we know:
    The Hawks are in CAP hell. They are at $10,897mm.
    Wilson CAP is $25mm
    Frank Clark CAP is $17mm (more on that later)
    Wilson wants out and has set a deadline
    Schneider is desperate for picks in this Draft. They have only 4 picks in a pretty sporty Draft class.
    (This almost sounds like Draft Day stuff? Where's Sonny?)

    Now lets kick the tires on.............. Oakland
    The Raiders are at $32,147mm
    Carr has a CAP of $22mm
    We know even though he praises Carr, Gruden is not necessarily tied to Carr and lip service has been underwhelming.
    The Raiders also need an edge rusher.

    My DW Toys"Trade-A-Rama" super-duper Trade? A shocker!

    >The Raiders trade picks #4, #24 and #27 and Derek Carr

    >The Seahawks trade Russell Wilson, Frank Clark and pick #21


    The Hawks now have new CAP room.
    The get a QB who is 4 years younger
    They move a QB who wants to leave Seattle and CA and Vegas will suit Russ and the Mrs.
    They have the picks to replace Clark and rebuild the sagging Defense
    They could not pay for Wilson. He set a deadline.
    The best they get if he leaves is a 3rd comp.

    The Raiders get a top tier QB they can afford to extend right now
    They get a EDGE guy they need to replace Mack
    They still retain at least one first rounder
    AB was best when Ben extended plays. That is what Wilson can bring to the table.
    Wilson to AB? Watch out AFC West

    This is a Gruden type move

    OK, Take your shots.....Thoughts?
    DW Toys
     
  19. Tunescribe

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    I think Mahomes might be coming back down to earth. Teams will learn how to defend him and the only reason he makes some of his unconventional throws is because he's young. His arm can't take that forever.
     
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  20. TinhWoodhead

    TinhWoodhead In the Starting Line-Up

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    Seattle will prob need to overpay him, he’s the only draw left for them
     

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