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  1. 37Harrison

    37Harrison 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    IF the Jests have more talent then it just goes to show that the Pats have the better coach and are a better t-e-a-m. As Bill is quoted as saying, "It's not about collecting talent, it's about building a team."
     
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    the jets may have talent but people are forgetting that its not jets d vs pats d or jets o vs pats o. I'll take the pats o vs jets d and as long as sanchez quaterbacking ill take pats d vs jets o.
     
  3. livinginthe past

    livinginthe past 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    I'll take your inane Jetsfan rant and raise you a:

    This Pats team is not THAT good!! - TheGangGreen.com Message Board
     
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    sarge 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Not sure I agree with this analogy. In the grand scheme of things I would say acting requires some of the least talent as opposed to most other jobs. Though I certianly agree directing requires a lot of talent, and Spielberg is a master.

    But I agree with your premise.

    I heard something similar on the radio a few weeks ago. Essentially, great coaches and great players need one another to realize there full potential.
     
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  5. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Yes, that's the O.P. to the post that started the thread I was referring to:

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/725224-greatest-thread-ever.html

    The post I pulled is from that thread. I find the takes on talent a lot more interesting than the "Brady is gay!"/"Rex is fat!" types of arguments, which I don't see impacting play on the field.
     
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    RodThePat In the Starting Line-Up

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    It's not laughable. The Jets are more physically talented than the Patriots. Their depth might no be as good, their QB might be a high-schooler when compared to ours, but if you put their starting 22 against our starting 22 they have more talented players than we do. That is no way means they are a better team, though.
     
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    This was a pretty god analogy.
     
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    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    Offense:

    QB - Brady by a solar system over Sanchez
    RB1 - BJGE over Greene
    RB2 - Tomlinson over Woodhead
    LT - Ferguson/Light Even
    LG - Mankins by a mile
    C - Mangold slight edge over Koppen
    RG - Moore/Neal Even
    RT - Vollmer by a mile
    TE1 - Gronkowski by a mile
    TE2 - Keller slight edge over Hernandez
    WR1 - Holmes by a mile over Tate
    WR2 - Branch slight edge over Edwards
    WR3 - Welker by a mile over Cotchery
     
  9. robertweathers

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    Only two that are worth a debate.

    Ferguson is outstanding

    Mangold may be a wider edge over Kop.
     
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    sieglo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    I have no argument for the Jets fan here.
     
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    gmtaxi27 On the Game Day Roster

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    Agree. Dude had his homer glasses on.
     
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    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    A statistic to ponder while considering offensive line play:

    NY Jets - 28 Sacks Allowed/525 passing attempts
    NE Patriots - 25 Sacks Allowed/507 passing attempts
     
  13. robertweathers

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    Maybe Moore over Connolly but not on KR.:p
     
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    oh really?
    [​IMG]
     
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    I hear ya.

    I think Light/Fergie are equal in pass protection. I think Brick has more power in the running game.

    Koppen tends to get overpowered by larger DTs. Mangold seems to be a little more stouter in that specific instance and stronger in the running game.
     
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    Sure you could argue the Jets are more talented. But back in 2001, the Steelers and Rams were more talented than the Pats too, and how'd that turn out? ;)
     
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    eifmp On the Game Day Roster

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    I think that The Patriot offense as a whole are greater than the sum of thier parts.

    I think the Patriot defense is more opportunistic than good. A defense that plays well and gains confidence with a big lead but is more tentative and apt to get exposed in close games. With the exception of the Colts game of course.
     
  18. Deus Irae

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    Light's better than Ferguson

    I'd break down the O-line like this:

    Light > Ferguson
    Mankins > Slauson
    Mangold > Koppen
    Moore > Connolly/Wendell
    Vollmer > Hunter
     
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    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    Brandon Moore is not better than Stephen Neal. No way, no how!
     
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    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    Stephen Neal = Brandon Moore
     
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