Gronk: arm injury

[Reckedtrek]

They should have gone for two/60!

Absolutely correct! Have Mallett throwing to Salas for the 2 point conversion!

I hope BB has learned a valuable lesson after yesterday's mishap: Do NOT play your best players until the playoffs, and if at all possible, the Superbowl.

 

[lamafist]

No, what's asisnine is to babble about being familiary "with how teams staff their FG/PAT kicking squads." That's asisine. Obviously someone else could have been in then.

I think that online forums have been really good for the word asinine. It had been mostly relegated to comic book villains not too long ago.

 

[Kontradiction]

Copout? Hardly. An answer to the question.

Fact remains that if Gronkowski had been done for the day he wouldn't have broken his arm on that play. Freak or not, that's the fact.

Teams, by and large, only have one PAT unit. That's something you should try to begin to understand going forward. Again, Rodney did the same thing all the time. The fact that you can't name me one instance outside of yesterday in which someone was hurt on the PAT team should tell you just how much of a freak occurrance this truly was.

 

[Deus Irae]

Oh, that's good. Because it failed miserably.

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That just means that it was like pretty much every post you've ever made.


Also, are you familiar with how teams generally staff their FG/PAT units?

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I caught some of that today. Breer was just chasing his tail, which he always does if he can't attribute his opinions to some "GM buddy" in the NFL. It's gotten so I just can't take him seriously enough to be PO'd by what he says anymore.

Albert has mastered the fine art of talking down in a manner that implies knowledge... Match him up against guys who have geniune knowledge and experience and he's still the guy best suited to track the suits on Park Ave during your lockout. He's also predisposed to falling in and out of love with organizations who give him access. Think Bill hurt his feeling along the way. Parcells and the whole crew in Dallas who moved on to Miami and in one instance NY, to the JETS who he developed a crush on during his last assignment before leaving Boston (NFL beat writer covering everyone else's TC) - he remains quite smitten with his contacts.

I hear he's on his way to Foxboro make an ass out of himself questioning Belichick about his policies. For some reason he thinks that makes him look hardnosed. Not sure what annoys me more about Bert, that attitude or his juvenile and incessant OSU vs. the world twittering.

 

[JackBauer]

No, what's asisnine is to babble about being familiary "with how teams staff their FG/PAT kicking squads." That's asisine. Obviously someone else could have been in then.

Has the team, or any team for that matter, ever substituted personnel out of the PAT squad for score-related reasons?

 

[lamafist]

This guy didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night...but he has a little backgound on ST duties and teamates with broken forearms... Probably how he landed a chat on ESPN.

Tedy
(12:10 PM)

Jason, you always leave your starters in on the P.A.T., even on the field-goal block team. When I was playing defense and we were blowing out an opponent, you were told, "You're out of the game now, Tedy, but you're still on the field goal block team." It's just the way it is in football. The forearm injury to Gronkowski is unfortunate. The projected time for him to miss is 4-to-6 weeks, per some reports. From my experience, it can be significantly less. Mike Vrabel broke his forearm one year. After surgery, they put in one plate and 11 screws. Vrabel missed two games. I know Gronkowski is tough, but Mike Vrabel's toughness was legendary. So it all depends on the player. I would doubt that Gronkowski is out the full six weeks.

What people don't seem to be getting is that special teams plays like PAT tries are very low risk, injury-wise. Obviously, as evidenced by yesterday's game, they do happen, but Gronk would be way more likely to get hurt during your average week of practice than the PAT try, and obviously, nobody would suggest that he shouldn't be practicing.

 

[Reckedtrek]

It appears that the expected time is 4-6 weeks, and reports indicate that the prognosis is as positive as can reasonably be.

4 weeks is the 49ers game.
5 weeks is the Jaguars game.

Gronk should be back and ready to shake off a little rust for one of these two games. The Pats should be able to level The NJ Sancheebows and then the Dolfrauds without Gronk. That leaves Texans as the game where the Pats would greatly benefit from Gronk being there, but he likely won't be back in time for. If he's back for San Francisco, it's one game at risk (Texans).

We might drop a spot or two in the playoff seeding, but the silver lining is at least Gronk should be fresh and ready to destroy for the playoffs.

Obviously I wish he never got hurt, but I think the overreactions are ridiculous.

 

[Deus Irae]

Jason, you always leave your starters in on the P.A.T., even on the field-goal block team.

............

 

[DocHoliday]

If this offense relies so heavily on gronk that we can't win without him, we don't deserve a Super Bowl anyway

Relax. Good teams can overcome stuff like this

 

[aluminum seats]

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That just means that it was like pretty much every post you've ever made.


Also, are you familiar with how teams generally staff their FG/PAT units?

Now's the part of our program where Deus gets all snippy, gang! Always fun to watch.

 

[aluminum seats]

I think that online forums have been really good for the word asinine. It had been mostly relegated to comic book villains not too long ago.

Ha! Exactly. Sort of like "maniacal laugh...."

 

[Deus Irae]

Now's the part of our program where Deus gets all snippy, gang! Always fun to watch.

I'm not being snippy at all. I was merely giving an on-topic and apropos response to your earlier post.



Also, are you familiar with how teams generally staff their FG/PAT units?

 

[Kid~Brady]

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter

Adam Schefter's post "Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski un..."

Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski underwent surgery this am. Team uncertain exactly how long he will be out, but one source said he expects Gronkowski to miss "probably a few weeks."

 

[BSR]

What people don't seem to be getting is that special teams plays like PAT tries are very low risk, injury-wise. Obviously, as evidenced by yesterday's game, they do happen, but Gronk would be way more likely to get hurt during your average week of practice than the PAT try, and obviously, nobody would suggest that he shouldn't be practicing.

I'm sure if he were injured during practice there would be some idiot here proclaiming how "Bill now owns the injury" or some similar type nonsense.

 

[Deus Irae]

Even Dungy was defending the Patriots on this.

 

[lamafist]

It appears that the expected time is 4-6 weeks, and reports indicate that the prognosis is as positive as can reasonably be.

4 weeks is the 49ers game.
5 weeks is the Jaguars game.

Gronk should be back and ready to shake off a little rust for one of these two games. The Pats should be able to level The NJ Sancheebows and then the Dolfrauds without Gronk. That leaves Texans as the game where the Pats would greatly benefit from Gronk being there, but he likely won't be back in time for. If he's back for San Francisco, it's one game at risk (Texans).

We might drop a spot or two in the playoff seeding, but the silver lining is at least Gronk should be fresh and ready to destroy for the playoffs.

Obviously I wish he never got hurt, but I think the overreactions are ridiculous.

I actually think there's a pretty good chance we'll see Gronk come back for the Texans game. Some breaks, depending on the location, are easier to secure with screws than others. Since 4-6 weeks was his pre-surgery prognosis, and we're now hearing he'll "probably miss a few weeks," it sounds like that may have been the case with Gronk's fracture.

If the break can be screwed down sufficiently tight, there's not much risk of further injury, so it becomes mostly a matter of letting the swelling subside and pain management, and Gronk didn't even seem to be in much pain coming off the field after the PAT.

 

[aluminum seats]

I'm not being snippy at all. I was merely giving an on-topic and apropos response to your earlier post.



Also, are you familiar with how teams generally staff their FG/PAT units?

Of course you were being snippy. Have the courage of your own snottiness--come on, now.

I understand Gronkowski's would usually be in on that play, and someone else could have been. Now he won't be for several weeks. I understand that.

I also understand that I have respect for people who are intellectually consistent, and in other cases where guys have gotten hurt (Welker) have stood up to say, "guys have to play, that's the way it goes." And certainly this was a case where typically you wouldn't think twice about it, because it's a routine play. What I take issue with is those who blow a gasket at at the idea that maybe he WOULDN'T have played that snap. Somehow I think if Belichick had sent someone else in on that play, nobody would have complained about how the coach violated the sanctity of "the FG/PAT units."

 

[thenepatsrule]

Even Dungy was defending the Patriots on this.

I saw that and was shocked

 

[Deus Irae]

Of course you were being snippy. Have the courage of your own snottiness--come on, now.

As usual, you get it wrong. I'm not one to deny my "snottiness". I have no problem noting when I'm being such. In this case, my response was on point and not snotty. If you were to tell us all that it was a lovely full moon outside, the likely reality is that it would be noon, with a full sun and no moon. That's not being snippy. That's just getting your posting history on record. You are one of the more reliably wrong posters on this site.

I understand Gronkowski's would usually be in on that play, and someone else could have been. Now he won't be for several weeks. I understand that.

I also understand that I have respect for people who are intellectually consistent, and in other cases where guys have gotten hurt (Welker) have stood up to say, "guys have to play, that's the way it goes." And certainly this was a case where typically you wouldn't think twice about it, because it's a routine play. What I take issue with is those who blow a gasket at at the idea that maybe he WOULDN'T have played that snap. Somehow I think if Belichick had sent someone else in on that play, nobody would have complained about how the coach violated the sanctity of "the FG/PAT units."

You clearly don't understand what "intellectually consistent" means. Do you understand how teams staff their PAT/FG units?