FO on the option/veer stuff KC used against NE

[QuantumMechanic]

Some might find this interesting:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Film Room: Kansas City's Option Offense

(Note: it's written by neither Fahey nor Kacsmar and so stands of a chance of being something other than birdcage liner.)

 

[Wheelman]

I figured the chiefs were going to use that college option stuff on us but I thought we would have handled it better than the playoff game. It was handled worse.

 

[Dagg]

It was and odd version since it had a shovel pass option (kelce) vs a more traditional fb dive, and then your normal qb/rb option behind it. Fairly clever concept but it wasnt what hurt us IMO.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Maddening... I hope our team earns a second chance.

 

[IllegalContact]

garbage that some game film will solve.....there's always something giving it away......the wildcat went sour almost as early as it appeared

it will be stopped when an NT reads it and lights up Kelce

 

[ViperGTS]

garbage that some game film will solve.....there's always something giving it away......the wildcat went sour almost as early as it appeared

it will be stopped when an NT reads it and lights up Kelce

Yeah I was half expecting that in this game. Or nailing Smith. Does KC play the Bengals this year? If so that psychopath Burfict won't have any problems dropping Smith.

 

[BradyFTW!]

patfanken mentioned emphatically it in the game thread, and I'll enthusiastically co-sign on it: when opposing offenses run gimmicky ******** that exposes the QB, you have to punish them by absolutely drilling the QB every legal chance you get. The moment Smith gets buried a couple times by 250+ pound linemen, you'll see that whole section of their playbook retired.

I thought this was the lesson that the league took away from RG3 and Tyrod Taylor. The team will stop running the plays they're most effective on so much if there's a credible threat that you'll break them in half. It's even why Carolina is trying to turn Newton into a pocket passer, when he's at his best by far outside the pocket. But sometimes teams try it and get away with it and I don't really understand why.

Separate but related: why don't you see many teams running Mike Martz concepts as their core offense anymore? Because it gets your QB killed. It's in no team's long-term interest to get its QB killed, although there are still a couple holdouts (Seattle, Indy) that seem not to have got the memo.

 

[Love The Drake]

I agree 100 percent I hate Suggs and Burfict but they would of destroyed the QB.

 

[Oswlek]

patfanken mentioned emphatically it in the game thread, and I'll enthusiastically co-sign on it: when opposing offenses run gimmicky ******** that exposes the QB, you have to punish them by absolutely drilling the QB every legal chance you get. The moment Smith gets buried a couple times by 250+ pound linemen, you'll see that whole section of their playbook retired.

I thought this was the lesson that the league took away from RG3 and Tyrod Taylor. The team will stop running the plays they're most effective on so much if there's a credible threat that you'll break them in half. It's even why Carolina is trying to turn Newton into a pocket passer, when he's at his best by far outside the pocket. But sometimes teams try it and get away with it and I don't really understand why.

Separate but related: why don't you see many teams running Mike Martz concepts as their core offense anymore? Because it gets your QB killed. It's in no team's long-term interest to get its QB killed, although there are still a couple holdouts (Seattle, Indy) that seem not to have got the memo.

HT could have decapitated Smith on the last play in the FO link if he wanted to.

 

[Uptown]

Maddening... I hope our team earns a second chance.

If we see them again, hopefully the D swarms to the ball with cat-like quickness

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

If we see them again, hopefully the D swarms to the ball with cat-like quickness

Did you use the wrong account to make that comment?

 

[jimnance]

Maddening... I hope our team earns a second chance.

" second" chance? This team has 9 lives.

 

[maineman209]

From the opening paragraph (by Charles McDonald, btw) ...

" ... the Wildcat formation in 2008 was more of a trend than a solidified, core piece of offensive philosophy. This was mainly because you can't run an offense in the NFL with a non-quarterback as your primary ball-handler (despite what the Jacksonville Jaguars may think)."

Pretty decent film breakdown, actually.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Did you use the wrong account to make that comment?

Nope. A lot of regulars know where I stand,

 

[captain stone]

FO really believes that the crap KC pulled is an "evolution" instead of a "trend,"
as per their own definitions?

Please.