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Too soon.
any thoughts on Cam being an accurate passer after last night? or were the first two weeks just a fluke?
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Harry also had a good game. The guy goes down way too easily but it’s also clear that he has great hands and can take a big hit and hold onto the ball.
Harry's playing through a shoulder injury which might be affecting his willingness to fight for YAC.
I disagree. With Newton's injury issues a bit of security could be more valuable than maximum payout.His agent would do him a disservice if he let his client sign a contract in the middle of a season where he is playing well.
I disagree. With Newton's injury issues a bit of security could be more valuable than maximum payout.
Agents get players the contracts they want. If Newton wants to play for a winner with elite coaching, and wants some guaranteed money in case his body fails, and Bill is willing to meet him halfway, something could easily get done. It all depends on what Cam wants, which is the one thing we can't really know
Jets, Browns, Jaguars, Panthers (again), Saints as Brees won’t have much longer, Ben was already toying with leaving the Steelers and Cam is a very similar style, Washington, the Bears are probably going to give up on Trubbs soon etc.Belichick will need to know the status of the salary cap for next season with all the revenue losses before he hamstrings the team, even if it means potentially losing out on Cam Newton.
I don't know how many of you follow European soccer but Covid has taken the starch out of some potentially big moves over the last month. Teams are unwilling to buy star players on the market because of the uncertainty of the Covid revenue losses. And the teams that own the rights to these players are refusing to part with them because they feel they are being ripped off.
So we can talk about how much Newton deserves, and we can even agree he should get $25m, but if #1 Belichick determines that the Patriots should not kill their cap, and most importantly #2, no other team in the league is going to offer Cam $25m because they won't have the space, then there's no point in maxing him out with an extension now.
Look around the league. Where can Cam possibly go to? Chicago just brought on Foles's contract. What other teams would sign Cam? I'm struggling here to name them.
Anyone have a suggestion on who are competition would be for his services?
Our best bet with Cam is probably offering 30 million guaranteed and a 5 year deal and hoping loyalty to the team that gave him a chance and security for 5 years wins outI disagree. With Newton's injury issues a bit of security could be more valuable than maximum payout.
Agents get players the contracts they want. If Newton wants to play for a winner with elite coaching, and wants some guaranteed money in case his body fails, and Bill is willing to meet him halfway, something could easily get done. It all depends on what Cam wants, which is the one thing we can't really know
no, you extend him now for say 3 seasons after this one for a total of say $102m which is $34m/yr. Give him a $24m bonus now, and spread the $78m over 3 years = $26m salary/yr. Could be 4 more years instead of 3. Guarantee him at least half of it.Our best bet with Cam is probably offering 30 million guaranteed and a 5 year deal and hoping loyalty to the team that gave him a chance and security for 5 years wins out
I’m really agreeing with the first part of your comment; @lancerman expressed my views on the 2nd.Belichick will need to know the status of the salary cap for next season with all the revenue losses before he hamstrings the team, even if it means potentially losing out on Cam Newton.
I don't know how many of you follow European soccer but Covid has taken the starch out of some potentially big moves over the last month. Teams are unwilling to buy star players on the market because of the uncertainty of the Covid revenue losses. And the teams that own the rights to these players are refusing to part with them because they feel they are being ripped off.
So we can talk about how much Newton deserves, and we can even agree he should get $25m, but if #1 Belichick determines that the Patriots should not kill their cap, and most importantly #2, no other team in the league is going to offer Cam $25m because they won't have the space, then there's no point in maxing him out with an extension now.
Look around the league. Where can Cam possibly go to? Chicago just brought on Foles's contract. What other teams would sign Cam? I'm struggling here to name them.
Anyone have a suggestion on who are competition would be for his services?
I could agree with that. You can get creative and make the money work. I’m just dating something that equals longterm that translates to 30 million for him might get it done.no, you extend him now for say 3 seasons after this one for a total of say $102m which is $34m/yr. Give him a $24m bonus now, and spread the $78m over 3 years = $26m salary/yr. Could be 4 more years instead of 3. Guarantee him at least half of it.
That's paying him market rate but we're still getting a bargain cause of this year's contract.
This is unrealistic. The outcome to this is you lose Cam and you have to either roll with Stidham who couldn’t beat out Cam despite being with the team for two years and Can needing to play catch up with barely any training camp OR rolling the dice on the draft.Pump the breaks
The guy lit up a patchwork secondary playing prevent defense.
History always confirms: Old running QBs soon become old IR’d QBs.
Bill, the pragmatic, does not risk his team’s financial future on players like Cam.
Maybe a two year middle of the pack salary with minimal guarantees that won’t handcuff the team when the inevitable injury reoccurs
He made some good throws, but he is not an accurate passer at the nfl level.any thoughts on Cam being an accurate passer after last night? or were the first two weeks just a fluke?