Elway >>>>>>>>> Montana

[DaBruinz]

Its funny how Pats fans are throwing TB under the bus without knowing it. TB is 100 times the QB Montana is.

Also interesting that nobody has snickered at me having Marino at 5. Very interesting

No one threw TB under the bus. Typical asinine claim by a TROLL who doesn't know wtf he's talking about.

 

[Deus Irae]

This thread is a terrible troll job, BTW.

 

[Ring 6]

In the 3 seasons prior to Montana becoming the starter for the 49ers, SF went

2-14
2-14
6-10

In fairness, he was 2-5 of the 6-10 as he took over after week 9.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Walsh was good but he is no way BBs equal.

I disagree. He was every bit as good as BB. Just had a different style.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Actually, the defenses were just as good.. They were rated 9, 9 and 3 in terms of points allowed in comparison to 8 and 6 for Elway/Shanny.

The Broncos offenses didn't score as nearly many points, but they were still rated #8,4 and 6 in terms of points scored in comparison to the rest of the league..

Yea I like to think that the Shanny Bronks were more talented offensively, you are probobly right in saying that the 80s Bronks were better defensively- however in the SBs they allowed 39, 42, and 55 points

 

[Ring 6]

I disagree. He was every bit as good as BB. Just had a different style.

No he just wasn't.
BB did more before becoming a HC and did more as a HC.

 

[MassPats38]

Jesus, had no idea but there would be so many blind Montana fans here

It isn't blind. You have apparently had a tough evening, and have stumbled upon a novel concept that apparently you hold but the world has failed to appreciate.

Montana and Elway played in the same passing era, meaning the rules did not benefit one more than the other. Elway had a career 79 rating. Joe Montana had a career 92 rating. By comparison, Elway had 226 interceptions to 139 interceptions for Montana, so Elway completed about 100 more passes to the other team. TDs? 300 to 273. Almost the same. Elway was not surrounded by chumps. 2 Hall of Fame members, other than Elway and a ton of Ring of Honor members (All Pros) who played with Elway.

Elway was a better version of Brett Favre - talented but overconfident in his arm and not always accurate. He threw for a lot of yards, and a lot of interceptions. Montana prided himself on accuracy, but did not have Elway's talent. In the end, Elway would never have won a title but for TD. Montana is remembered for a perfect pass to his TE to vault the Niners to the title. Elway, prior to TD on the roster, was remembered for staggering beat-downs in multiple title games (one of which thankfully removed the '85 Pats from infamy).

Greatness eventually wins. The cast around Montana was better, but what happened when he went to KC? The team went from one and done to the conference championship game.

So if greatness is measured on passing yards, clear advantage to Elway. On interceptions? Elway. On talent? Elway. On every other empirical assessment that governs QB comparisons, including titles? Montana, hands down.

 

[wolverinejoe80]

walsh was great. he was the smartest guy in his era. he was a genius. he was BB of 80's but in a different style.

but BB has passed him. BB is the GOAT.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Man, this board is hilarious today

Nah, I just think one of Elway's family members is posting on this forum.

 

[VrabelJr]

This thread is... weird.

 

[fnordcircle]

Smokin' on da dro
You can't act like you don't know
Get down, get down on ya knees like a topnotch ho

 

[DaBruinz]

Yea I like to think that the Shanny Bronks were more talented offensively, you are probobly right in saying that the 80s Bronks were better defensively- however in the SBs they allowed 39, 42, and 55 points

Well, part of that is because Elway threw 1, 3, and 2 interceptions which led directly to points for San Fran..

 

[RobertWeathers]

No he just wasn't.
BB did more before becoming a HC and did more as a HC.

He did more before becoming a HC? You could argue that Walsh changed the offensive game as we know it.

BB has more wins and more titles but to say hes a better coach than Walsh is like saying Van Gogh is better than Cezanne.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

Elway couldn't hold Montana's jock with his big horse teeth.

 

[Deus Irae]

He did more before becoming a HC? You could argue that Walsh changed the offensive game as we know it.

BB has more wins and more titles but to say hes a better coach than Walsh is like saying Van Gogh is better than Cezanne.

I have no problem saying Van Gogh is better than Cezanne.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I have no problem saying Van Gogh is better than Cezanne.

LOL. Maybe Impressionist artists from the 19th century was a bad example.

 

[Viper652]

Pats fans can troll like no other thats for sure.

You have to have a 20 IQ to think Montana is better than Elway.

Montana had awful talent, amirite

 

[Viper652]

LOL how the **** are Pats fans this ****ing dumb about QB's. ****ing insane.

You could have plugged in any good QB for the 49ers with all that insane talent they had and win those superbowls

 

[Viper652]

You guys sure know how to troll, or you are the dumbest fanbase about QB's ever.

Pretty weird since Brady is the best ever

 

[Viper652]

You guys sure know how to troll, or you are the dumbest fanbase about QB's ever.

Pretty weird since Brady is the best ever