[Edited thread title] Jack Jones arrested for possession of firearms at airport

[Triumph]

If you can legally own and possess the pistol in the state of origin and the state of destination, you are protected by federal law. Of course, when driving through the NJ-NY-CT-MA corridor, you cannot have the weapon accessible to you in the vehicle, but you can have it in the vehicle, locked up, unloaded, etc.

That is, of course, unless you have a concealed carry permit for the state through which you're traveling, which is essentially impossible in NJ-NY unless you're extremely upper class. I understand (from a friend of mine in the NY State Troopers) NY policy is to arrest you upon discovery of a weapon and make you prove your innocence. CT is fairly liberal when issuing even out-of-state permits. No idea on MA, to be honest.

Best just not to do it.

As for Jones...don't know how MA rolls with this stuff, but yeah...he's got quite the uphill climb to retain his liberty. He's run afoul of federal law, not just MA law.

Before I cross the Illinois state line, I stop on my side of the Mississippi river and separate everything and lock it up.

I could still be detained though just like in NY.

My guess is that Mass would also run you through the courts knowing fully well that charges wont stick. Still, they make you play the game hiring a lawyer and dealing with all the minutiae to get off because they dont want you back in their state and they dont want you to have a firearm.

 

[50-yard-line]

Thanks for the info DB Both interesting and sad. So you are saying in almost half the states in the union you need to both pass a written and actual test to drive a car (and pay for the privilege to boot), yet in half the country I can just walk into Walmart and walk out with a Glock or semi-automatic rifle with clips that hold dozens of rounds by just showing him a drivers license then legally take that weapon anywhere? OUCH!

Yep. Guy I knew was making bank by driving down to GA or one of the SE states, loading his trunk with guns, then driving up 95 and selling them in every major city he passed.
If he hadn't had an accident with a trunk filled with guns, he'd probably still be doing it.

 

[Ross12]

I dunno why people think he needs to be cut. He didn’t hurt anyone here and he wasn’t posting to social media show-boating. Could be as simple as having grabbed the wrong bag before going to the airport. Is that smart? No but it’s a pretty far cry from the Aaron Hernandez comparisons some are making…

 

[Ollie]

I'm from the UK so quite ignorant when it comes to guns but even from my ignorant perspective it sounds insanely stupid to try to take a loaded gun that you don't have a lisence for onto a ****ing plane.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I'm from the UK so quite ignorant when it comes to guns but even from my ignorant perspective it sounds insanely stupid to try to take a loaded gun that you don't have a lisence for onto a ****ing plane.

Your country is the reason why we have a 2nd amendment here in the first place.

 

[50-yard-line]

I don't think he'll be cut - unless he gets jailed. Nor should he be.

The penalty for carrying a loaded firearm through a TSA checkpoint is a fine between 4k-10k (approximately).

People who don't own guns, particularly in a state like MA, read incidents like this and gasp. People who own guns and live in many other states, say, "oopsie."

I suspect Jones will get fined and probation. I don't think he's going to lose his career over this, and I don't think the Patriots have some special code preventing them from keeping him. He didn't threaten someone or hurt someone.

PS. If you fly a lot, it's almost a sure thing that you've been on a plane with someone who had a gun in their carry-on.

 

[50-yard-line]

Your country is the reason why we have a 2nd amendment here in the first place.

Not close.

 

[50-yard-line]

I'm from the UK so quite ignorant when it comes to guns but even from my ignorant perspective it sounds insanely stupid to try to take a loaded gun that you don't have a lisence for onto a ****ing plane.

The USA is about as dumb as it gets with gun laws/licensing/registration...but hey, we follow the money, whatever the non-monetary cost.

 

[Triumph]

I dunno why people think he needs to be cut. He didn’t hurt anyone here and he wasn’t posting to social media show-boating. Could be as simple as having grabbed the wrong bag before going to the airport. Is that smart? No but it’s a pretty far cry from the Aaron Hernandez comparisons some are making…

The extended magazine is his biggest problem and he could be making license plates this season.

He was not a model citizen prior to this, so that plays into his departure.

 

[Patsgofor4]

People get caught carrying firearms on a plane happens all the time. Jack Jones is hardly the only one.

Yes, there are a lot of really dumb people living in the United States and at least a third of those people own at least one gun.

 

[crawhammer]

I dunno why people think he needs to be cut. He didn’t hurt anyone here and he wasn’t posting to social media show-boating. Could be as simple as having grabbed the wrong bag before going to the airport. Is that smart? No but it’s a pretty far cry from the Aaron Hernandez comparisons some are making…

He hasn't killed anyone yet as far as we know like Hernandez but imagine if this thug does eventually commit a serious violent crime while still wearing a Patriots uniform... it's just a chance Kraft cannot take... it would irreparably damage his legacy. Jones has got to go asap.

 

[Ollie]

Your country is the reason why we have a 2nd amendment here in the first place.

Hey don't blame us, you guys run your own ship and have had plenty of time to change it. Lots has changed since 1775.

In the Uk it used to be legal to kill a welsh person with a bow and arrow if you were on English soil and they were in Wales. Suffice to say you can't do that any more which is probably for the best.

 

[Since1960]

Paging Mr Marcus Peters - please pick up the nearest courtesy phone…..

 

[Triumph]

Sad thing is, Patriots will cut him. Then during the season when the average NFL fan stops caring he will sign with a team like the chiefs and produce for them

And, Jones will never learn.

 

[Pape]

He hasn't killed anyone yet as far as we know like Hernandez but imagine if this thug does eventually commit a serious violent crime while still wearing a Patriots uniform... it's just a chance Kraft cannot take... it would irreparably damage his legacy. Jones has got to go asap.

thug?

because he likes guns? Most here like guns...

I once brought up the idea of getting rid of guns altogether as I see absolutely no need for them, but Ian shut that down right quick...

so a man exercising his second amendment right is a thug? that's a rather large stroke with a very broad brush... That white hood aluminum foil cap must be on pretty tight

He doesn't have to go, as we all know there is a double standard for good players in this league... Its more like you want him to go... some more anti-BB ammo (pun intended) for the Fellowship of the Miserable?

 

[Family]

I'm kind of at the point with the NFL where why cut the guy. In 6 months no one will care and he'll be on another team. Producing for them. Plenty of worse guys in the NFL.

I dunno why people think he needs to be cut. He didn’t hurt anyone here and he wasn’t posting to social media show-boating. Could be as simple as having grabbed the wrong bag before going to the airport. Is that smart? No but it’s a pretty far cry from the Aaron Hernandez comparisons some are making…

My issue is he can't be trusted.

This is the type of disruption that kills a team when they're rolling. It wasn't like Jones made a poor decision on the spur of the moment. This is his ability to get what's ok and what is not. And it's not close to the first offense.

He can blow up any moment with another meathead move.

 

[Ross12]

He hasn't killed anyone yet as far as we know like Hernandez but imagine if this thug does eventually commit a serious violent crime while still wearing a Patriots uniform... it's just a chance Kraft cannot take... it would irreparably damage his legacy. Jones has got to go asap.

This doesn’t make any sense. He’s a “thug” and a potential murderer because he had a firearm in an airport unlawfully? There’s not a strong correlation here.

 

[Real fan 02]

I'm starting to think some professional athletes aren't that smart.

He'll be cut and eventually play somewhere else.

Which is funny in a way. Teams get a pass on picking up other teams' trash because they can say "it's a fresh start."

Hard for me to conceptualize the need for a professional NFL player to have to carry around 2 guns... gotta leave that life alone jack..

 

[Real fan 02]

This doesn’t make any sense. He’s a “thug” and a potential murderer because he had a firearm in an airport unlawfully? There’s not a strong correlation here.

Agree.. lots of people do carry firearms in airports. My thing is why jack? What was the need to do so?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

He hasn't killed anyone yet as far as we know like Hernandez but imagine if this thug does eventually commit a serious violent crime while still wearing a Patriots uniform... it's just a chance Kraft cannot take... it would irreparably damage his legacy. Jones has got to go asap.

So NFL players who exercise their constitutional rights are now "thugs" and may commit a crime in the future so the best thing is to release him? There is a world of difference between Jones and Hernandez, who hung out with the wrong crowd throughout his life. Hernandez had no friends on the Pats and in fact his teammates were afraid of him. Hernandez hung out with gangs when he left the stadium.