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Who is most important to the turn around so far Vrabel or Drake?

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I'm thinking in SBB's case it should be a nice blend of rye and Kentucky blue
I'll take a corned beef on rye but I don't think that's what you're talking about I'm not sure what either of those things are?
 
I can state this unequivocally: the vast majority of members on this site do not hate Bill Belichick. In fact, most of us feel indebted to him for what he accomplished in New England. We also recognize that BB stumbled his last few years here and since has experienced challenges both on/off the field -- some of them embarrassing, self-inflicted and seemingly avoidable. But discussing those missteps doesn't equate to hatred and it's important to discern the difference.

On the other hand, we have A FEW folks here (haters) who revel in seeing people like BB fail. You seem over-focused on that minority. Just let it go and enjoy what's happening with the new regime.
Maybe but doesn't seem like it. I suppose I should have said %90 of the comments in here about Bill are hate filled (And %9 of the rest probably comes from me).

If that math doesn't line up with how you guys actually think then maybe some of you all should speak up. Because from my view this boards opinion has been very clearly stated and sadly it states you hate the guy and that you will try to run off anyone with a consenting opinion.
 
Maybe but doesn't seem like it. I suppose I should have said %90 of the comments in here about Bill are hate filled (And %9 of the rest probably comes from me).

If that math doesn't line up with how you guys actually think then maybe some of you all should speak up. Because from my view this boards opinion has been very clearly stated and sadly it states you hate the guy and that you will try to run off anyone with a consenting opinion.

Are you fekkin' kidding me? Cheezus. Just go thru and read the posts. Tune, me, Ian, maust and that's just this thread. However... almost to am man... guys are begging you to stop with it. Go back and read it from page 1. There's 9 posts on page one asking you to stop.

IMO, your issue is with one poster, and he revels in baiting you.
 
Maybe but doesn't seem like it. I suppose I should have said %90 of the comments in here about Bill are hate filled (And %9 of the rest probably comes from me).

If that math doesn't line up with how you guys actually think then maybe some of you all should speak up. Because from my view this boards opinion has been very clearly stated and sadly it states you hate the guy and that you will try to run off anyone with a consenting opinion.
People have spoken up and stated this several times and you ignore them or scream hater, hater, hater!!!
 

Are you fekkin' kidding me? Cheezus. Just go thru and read the posts. Tune, me, Ian, maust and that's just this thread. However... almost to am man... guys are begging you to stop with it. Go back and read it from page 1. There's 9 posts on page one asking you to stop.

IMO, your issue is with one poster, and he revels in baiting you.
Thats 9 posts there's thousands of others so seems my math isn't that far off.
 
Another stupid ****ing thread. We just went through 10+ years of Brady vs Belichick. Do we really need to do this again? There's no animosity, seemingly, between Maye and Vrabel. Can we just enjoy the product on the field without the contrived ********? Seriously. The Brady/Bill thing was 100% warranted - but Maye vs Vrabel is the stuff of morons and 12 year olds.
 
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Better team, better coaches, better blocking, better defense that gets him the ball back faster, better special teams that starts him in better field position… that explains Drake’s growth.

It could have happened last year, but we got Mayo.
 
Another stupid ****ing thread. We just went through 10+ years of Brady vs Belichick. Do we really need to do this again? There's no animosity, seemingly, between Maye and Vrabel. Can we just enjoy the product on the field without the contrived ********? Seriously. The Brady/Bill thing was 100% warranted - but Maye vs Vrabel is the stuff of morons and 12 year olds.
If Maye vs Vrabel becomes a thing maybe that means they won a bunch of titles and there's a conversation about who should get more credit. I'm ok with that. And of course the correct answer in the future will be Maye.
 
IMO, your issue is with one poster, and he revels in baiting you.

I'm sure the knowledge he gets to piss on the rest of the community in the process doesn't hurt. That he blocks folks that call him out rather than address/acknowledge his own behavior tells us all we need to know about where he's coming from. Still, SBB's tormentor didn't put him on the cross he willfully climbs up on the daily. You can save someone from most anything but themselves.

Sadly, I don't believe any of us is going to convince either of them to do some honest self assessment
 
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Initially, I wasn't excited about the hire due to he previous struggles in Tennessee, the track record not being good for defensive coaches and Bob having a hard time letting go of anyone tied to BB. Late into last season, Ben Johnson was my favorite for the Pats job until the defensive injuries caught up to him and he relied on gimmicks to keep his offense in the game. The divisional round really exposed him. He's done a decent job so far in Chicago, but I think he regrets passing on NE.

After Vrabel's first press conference addressing "entitlement", I liked what I heard from him.
Same here.

Ditto for McDaniels. Did not like him with other teams either and I also thought a complete change in philosophy away from being associated to BB would be better - but I'm glad he's here now.
 
I'm sure the knowledge he gets to piss on the rest of the community in the process doesn't hurt. That he blocks folks that call him out rather than address/acknowledge his own behavior tells us all we need to know about where he's coming from. Still, SBB's tormentor didn't put him on the cross he willfully climbs up on daily. You can save someone from most anything but themselves.

Sadly, I don't believe any of us is going to convince either of them to do some honest self assessment
I'm done with it.
 
It's really, really, really nice to have both a great HC and a great QB again.
After experiencing the last 5 seasons we deserve it. Lol
 
After experiencing the last 5 seasons we deserve it. Lol

Ha! Well, we had it sooooo good for so long that I'm not sure we "deserve" it again, but I'm not complaining.

On that note...imagine being a Jets fan.
 



Seriously what's Vrabel doing on the sidelines before games?
 
Ha! Well, we had it sooooo good for so long that I'm not sure we "deserve" it again, but I'm not complaining.

On that note...imagine being a Jets fan.
F that. For those of us who started following the NEP in the late 70s there were extended periods in which we had it rough being fans of this team.

We deserve any/all spoils that come our way. All other fans can deal.
 
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F that. For those of us who started following the NEP in the late 70s there were extended periods in which we had it rough being fans of this team.

We deserve any/all spoils that come our way. All other fans can deal.
Please. We're a bunch of spoiled *****es who took/take the whole thing for granted. We don't deserve anything anymore.
 
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