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Few people know this, but Caserio is Reche Caldwell's half-brother.
 

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It's a shame that we lost Pepper, although I don't think it will make that much difference myself, aside from sentimental reasoning.

It's a huge shame that we lost Scarnecchia, although apparently this was not anything of a surprise to BB, so there's not much use in crying over spilled milk. It is what it is, but I think our OL "base" is in pretty good shape aside from maybe the addition of Vollmer + one more draft pick/FA, which shouldn't be hard to acquire at all. Scar was getting old, and he had a great career here.

We lost the TE coach (can't remember his name off hand), but I'm seeing that as the least of the 3 losses myself. Not too concerned with this at all really.

The positive is that the 2 biggest coach/exec decided to stay here in McDaniels and Caserio, and those are 2 guys who have a lot more to do with the process than all 3 of the lost coaches combined in my opinion--not to downplay the greatness of Scarnecchia. Our losses could have been substantially worse, and the 2 most important guys outside of BB are on for another year here.
 
Nick Caserio leaving would have been the biggest possible loss to the brain trust of the Pats this season, in my opinion. Bigger than McDaniels, bigger even than Dante.

I am very happy that Caserio will be back to help run the draft and set the team up for another very deep run, this time one that ends with confetti and parades. Go Pats! And welcome back Nick, it's like you never left.
 
Few people know this, but Caserio is Reche Caldwell's half-brother.

Actually . . .

 
Smart move, IMHO. Caserio knows BB and understands how to work with him. Trying to navigate in a 3-person troika with Philbin and Aponte (who apparently outed Jeff Ireland to Philbin) could be awkward and cumbersome.

Good break for the Pats. Happy to have him back.

Wait . . . what?
 
Nick Caserio leaving would have been the biggest possible loss to the brain trust of the Pats this season, in my opinion. Bigger than McDaniels, bigger even than Dante.

I am very happy that Caserio will be back to help run the draft and set the team up for another very deep run, this time one that ends with confetti and parades. Go Pats! And welcome back Nick, it's like you never left.

Hard to say without knowing specifically what Caserio does and how big of a say he has in decision making. And I doubt we're going to find out anytime soon. I expect he'll get a shot at GM before too long. Or even here if he hangs around long enough(hopefully BB isn't leaving anytime soon).
 
If Caserio left he would have taken all of the scouting knowledge of this years prospective draftees with him, not necessarily on a hard drive, but in his mind..

He knows who we are looking at as well as the plans for this team..

IMO he has done a very good job...
 
Hard to say without knowing specifically what Caserio does and how big of a say he has in decision making. And I doubt we're going to find out anytime soon. I expect he'll get a shot at GM before too long. Or even here if he hangs around long enough(hopefully BB isn't leaving anytime soon).
He just got a shot at GM.
 
Wait . . . what?

Well, "outed" may have been a poor choice of words ... "ratted out" is more appropriate, at least according to Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald:

Midway through the season, after the Dolphins lost to winless Tampa Bay and blew a 17-3 halftime lead at New England, general manager Jeff Ireland became disenchanted with offensive coordinator Mike Sherman and generally wasn’t too pleased coach Joe Philbin wasn’t doing anything to correct his offensive coordinator and close friend’s play-calling or game planning.

And although the Dolphins recovered from those hideous moments, Ireland became more upset with the coaching staff the final two weeks of the season as what seemed like a certain playoff run collapsed under the weight of losses to Buffalo and the New York Jets.

During those final two games, while the Dolphins underperformed on the field, Ireland watched from the press box or a club suite and complained about the job the coaches were doing. And executive vice president of football administration Dawn Aponte heard Ireland’s complaints.

And Aponte told Philbin of Ireland’s complaints word for word.

That’s how the relationship between the Dolphins coach and general manager broke. That’s why Philbin and Ireland didn’t speak much, if at all, after the season ended with the Dolphins missing the playoffs for the fifth consecutive year.

The disconnect between Ireland, Philbin and Aponte wasn’t known just internally at the team’s Davie practice facility, but actually got around the entire NFL. Multiple sources have told the Herald they were aware of the break in the relationships.

Armando Salguero: In face of Miami Dolphins’ drama, search is on for brightest talent evaluator possible to replace Ireland - Armando Salguero - MiamiHerald.com

And this also from Salguero:

Part of the problem points directly to executive vice president of football administration Dawn Aponte. It seems that when Bill Parcells hired Aponte to be Miami's capologist in Feb. 2010 he brought in a tough and experienced corporate in-fighter. She is clearly adept at forming alliances. And when she sees a threat, she is well capable of attacking it.

Ireland was a threat to her, according to sources who called me this morning.

Ireland was her boss when she joined the team four years ago. But after Parcells left in October 2010, she lost her chief sponsor. And she wasn't comfortable with Ireland as her supervisor. So soon after Joe Philbin was hired, Aponte decided she and the new coach could bond and that alliance could strengthen each person's position within the organization.

Aponte, club sources say, also found ways to ingratiate herself to owner Stephen Ross. Nothing wrong with that. He's the boss. She would often ask to join Ross on his private jet flights back to New York from home games, often citing a need to handle club business at the league office in New York.

Aponte, a former league and New York Jets employee, apparently used the face time with Ross and the help of Jay Cross, a Related Company president and a former New York Jets president, to convince the owner of her value and how she should not be under Ireland's supervision.

Ireland, seeing this, asked Ross to fire Aponte. Ross didn't go for it and, indeed, after mulling the matter, actually promoted Aponte from Senior VP of Football Operations to her current Executive VP role. And in so doing, Ross doubled Aponte's salary. And got her out from under Ireland's umbrella. And Aponte joined parts of the coach search of 2012 that led to Philbin's hiring after Jeff Fisher turned the Dolphins down cold.

Knowing that Ireland had tried to get her fired, Aponte turned her sights on the GM. The relationship between the two, professional and even cordial in public at league meetings and alike, was a struggle for power behind the scenes.

Aponte, strengthened by her alliance with Philbin, had been winning that struggle for quite some time. She made herself very visible, attending practically every practice. She met with Philbin to advise on how to handle the media before every weekday press conference -- that meeting sometimes taking longer than the actual press conference. She attended the coach's show and made sure the questions were positive and gave Philbin an opportunity to shine. She edited the videos the team posted on its website of the Philbin postgame speech to the players.

(Unfortunately for Philbin, she didn't think to cut out the part where coach needed to read off index cards to deliver his address).

The bottom line is now Philbin and Aponte -- fresh off a victory over the last general manager -- want to make sure the next general manager is not truly empowered. The last thing they want is for Ross to hire a guy who will have the power to hire and perhaps fire Philbin and or Aponte.

They want a puppet person that will merely evaluate talent and handle the draft and keep his mouth shut and business to himself.

But as I've shared already the best candidates for a general manager job may not bite because 1. They don't want to get involved in the Dolphins office politics and/or 2. They want to have the power and autonomy to bring their own people and perhaps get rid of the current people if that's what they think is best.

So keep a close eye on what is about to happen next with this hire. If Ross hires a strong GM with authority to hire and fire Philbin and/or Aponte, then the duo has lost favor. But if Ross promotes Aponte to GM or hires someone who is merely a personnel guy but not the general manager in power as well as title then the DawnJoe has won and runs the show.

More history, fallout from Ireland vs. DawnJoe | Miami Dolphins In Depth

So any "GM" would be going into a situation where Philbin and Aponte report directly to Ross and already have clearly formed an alliance. Ireland was obviously a snake as well as a lousy GM, but the situation reeks of backstabbing and in-fighting. Caserio was smart to stay away from it. Ross needs to clean shop and get a fresh start, IMHO.
 
For all intents and purposes, Casserio IS the Pat GM, but without the final say on personnel. That's not unusual in the NFL these days. Maybe it would be a good idea for the Pats to finally give him the "title", if only to make sure that they have the option to block another team from grabbing him for the same job.

As for losing Scar, Pepper, and Godsey etc, I will be interested in seeing how BB fills those jobs. For a long time coaching continuity has been a hallmark for the Pats. Of course we have periodically lost an assistant coach or two in the off season, but nothing this drastic. So it will will be the most interesting coach-watching years since Charlie and Romeo left.

Pepper leaving is completely understandable. He wants to be a DC, and that's not going to happen here. I am a bit surprised to see him leave without a DC job in hand, but given his career goals, it was probably past time that he moved on.

I would have thought that Scar would have signed on for one more year, since I think next year's team has a better shot at the prize than this year's did, but its probably time.

Godsey has a faster road to advancement with BOB than with Bill, so that's not a shock either.

Historically BB does the best pure coaching job (doing more with less) with the smallest coaching staff in the league. I will be watching closely to see who he brings in, or advances from the QC staff
 
Well, "outed" may have been a poor choice of words ... "ratted out" is more appropriate, at least according to Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald:



Armando Salguero: In face of Miami Dolphins’ drama, search is on for brightest talent evaluator possible to replace Ireland - Armando Salguero - MiamiHerald.com

And this also from Salguero:



More history, fallout from Ireland vs. DawnJoe | Miami Dolphins In Depth

So any "GM" would be going into a situation where Philbin and Aponte report directly to Ross and already have clearly formed an alliance. Ireland was obviously a snake as well as a lousy GM, but the situation reeks of backstabbing and in-fighting. Caserio was smart to stay away from it. Ross needs to clean shop and get a fresh start, IMHO.

Thanks for posting, I never know any of that.

An inept owner that consistently makes poor decisions and a capologist control freak with the coach in her pocket make that a very unattractive position. It seems strange that Caserio would even interview there. Either there is something in the Miami area that Caserio really covets, or he is gathering intel.
 
Thanks for posting, I never know any of that.

An inept owner that consistently makes poor decisions and a capologist control freak with the coach in her pocket make that a very unattractive position. It seems strange that Caserio would even interview there. Either there is something in the Miami area that Caserio really covets, or he is gathering intel.

Chris Price had a take on that this morning:

The news Saturday night that Nick Caserio would be sticking with the Patriots — despite a brief flirtation with the Dolphins — was interesting on a number of levels: One, the people around the league who I have spoken with suggest that while Caserio is highly regarded, he’s something of a blank slate. No one really knows that much about him. As a result, taking the chance to interview was likely an opportunity for him to expand his horizons a bit and allow some other folks around the league to get a real feel for him and his management style if he did decide to one day leave the Patriots. Two, he turned down a chance to interview for a similar position with the Colts in 2012, saying he was happy to stick around Foxboro. (Was the Miami gig a better job? More money? More leeway with ownership?) And three, it would have been an interesting career move for someone who has been so close to Bill Belichick over the years to even consider jumping directly to a divisional rival. The only time that’s happened (at least to my knowledge) was when Eric Mangini jumped to become the head coach of the Jets at the end of the 2005 season, and we all know how that turned out. For what it’s worth, the people who he’s worked with would certainly appear to endorse Caserio as a possible GM one day. I asked Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff, who worked with Caserio briefly in New England, as Caserio a possible GM candidate, and he was enthusiastic in his praise for his old friend. ‘€œNick Caserio’s a fine man,’ Dimitroff said. ‘He’s a very intelligent guy. He’s a tireless worker. I don’t know who works harder than him in the National Football League. He’s won many hats in New England, Bill’s asked him to do quite a bit, not only on the personnel side, but on the coaching side. You talk about a well-rounded individual. I hope coach Belichick isn’€™t upset with me that I’m pitching Nick Caserio, but I think Nick is a top-notch personnel man.’

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So Caserio may have been more just doing diligence in getting himself out and increasing his profile, as preparation for the future, or for leverage with the Pats.
 
Parcells was not in charge of the draft in 1996 when Tedy Bruschi and Milloy were drafted. In fact Belichick was the one who wanted Milloy.


Also say the Pats did what Atlanta did and traded
2011
1st-#28 which turned into Chandler Jones in 2012 and Shane Vereen
2nd-#60-which turned into #73 Steven Ridley and #138 Marcus Cannon
4th-#125 which turned into 2nd rd 2012 Tavon Wilson

2012
1st-#31 which turned into #25 Hightower
4th-#126 which was traded to move up to get Hightower

So Pats would have given picks that turned into Chandler Jones, Shane Vereen, Ridley, Cannon, Wilson and Hightower.

Parcells cried about not being able to buy the groceries when he left, and isn't the person responsible for the fine meal the cook made after he left.

The Pats have done better lately in the draft, but considering the higher number of picks that they've had under BB, they haven't had the results in his time here.

Team . Bills . Fins . Jets . Pats
Drafted . 118 . 105 . 92 . 123
On team . 26 . 28 . 29 . 28
In NFL . 17 . 26 . 17 . 20
Total . 43 . 54 . 46 . 48
 
You completely lost me when you said "Tannehill is most likely the best qb" in the division.... did I miss something??

I felt that way too. I even checked to see if it was a Pats fan.
 
Well, "outed" may have been a poor choice of words ... "ratted out" is more appropriate, at least according to Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald:



Armando Salguero: In face of Miami Dolphins’ drama, search is on for brightest talent evaluator possible to replace Ireland - Armando Salguero - MiamiHerald.com

And this also from Salguero:



More history, fallout from Ireland vs. DawnJoe | Miami Dolphins In Depth

So any "GM" would be going into a situation where Philbin and Aponte report directly to Ross and already have clearly formed an alliance. Ireland was obviously a snake as well as a lousy GM, but the situation reeks of backstabbing and in-fighting. Caserio was smart to stay away from it. Ross needs to clean shop and get a fresh start, IMHO.



Thanks for the link, Caserio was wise to turn it down.
 
Parcells cried about not being able to buy the groceries when he left, and isn't the person responsible for the fine meal the cook made after he left.

The Pats have done better lately in the draft, but considering the higher number of picks that they've had under BB, they haven't had the results in his time here.

Team . Bills . Fins . Jets . Pats
Drafted . 118 . 105 . 92 . 123
On team . 26 . 28 . 29 . 28
In NFL . 17 . 26 . 17 . 20
Total . 43 . 54 . 46 . 48


Sorry 1960 but I can't buy looking at the draft from that kind of perspective. It is better to have higher picks every year in every round than it is to have more picks at the end of every round. It is also much easier for picks to make and stick on teams that suck than it is to do so on a team that is in the final four every season.
 
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