Do you hope the Patriots trade Garoppolo?

[Jackson 2]

So you're saying BB is going to coach past 70?

You think Brady is going to be here for 6 more years?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Provided I don't have enough information about his abilities or what I would receive in return, I am eager to vote for an uninformed choice.

 

[FourierSeries]

He isn't going anywhere. Get that thought out of your heads right now.

 

[Spiral]

His contract is up after 2017. In order to keep him past next year, the Patriots will have to pay him starter's money, in the neighborhood of $20M per year, using Osweiler's contract as a comp. If they franchise him in 2018, they would have to have $24M+ in cap space by the start of the 2018 league year. I doubt the Patriots are going to do either of these things, IMO. They will auction him off to the highest bidder before next year's draft, and hope to wind up with a franchise OT or a DE like Myles Garrett.

 

[oldrover]

So you're saying BB is going to coach past 70?

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[Wheelman]

You think Brady is going to be here for 6 more years?

Yeah I do. I believe in Brady's lifestyle to keep himself healthy. I believe he can play until he's 45(maybe more)

 

[rochrist]

So you're saying BB is going to coach past 70?

Why not?

 

[Wheelman]

Rover, my man, you forgot the part where BB said he didn't want to coach that long like Marv did.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Fans are assuming Brady has the same thoughts from a few months ago when he comes back ... I would not assume anything in terms of Brady's future plans ... maybe he sees things differently and decides this year and maybe next will be enough to cap off his career.

Without knowing what is in Brady's mind fans do not have sufficient knowledge to say trade Jimmy or not ... but I bet Belichick knows so let's see how it plays out. That quick release to go along with his arm strength, mobility and intelligence is a precious commodity.

 

[Mack Herron]

His contract is up after 2017. In order to keep him past next year, the Patriots will have to pay him starter's money, in the neighborhood of $20M per year, using Osweiler's contract as a comp. If they franchise him in 2018, they would have to have $24M+ in cap space by the start of the 2018 league year. I doubt the Patriots are going to do either of these things, IMO. They will auction him off to the highest bidder before next year's draft, and hope to wind up with a franchise OT or a DE like Myles Garrett.

Your argument is an economic one and, with all due respect, until Miguel says there is no realistic way to structure Garoppolo's next contract that would enable both players to remain on the roster for Brady's last year, I am not buying it.

 

[doesntmatter1]

Jimmy is too good to trade. Period.

If he had his binky, Brian Tyms, we might have even seen a repeat of the Brady to Moss connection lol. In fantasy land, I would trade him this season for Larry Fitz to see what Brady could do with him though. Does that count?

 

[AzPatsFan]

His contract is up after 2017. In order to keep him past next year, the Patriots will have to pay him starter's money, in the neighborhood of $20M per year, using Osweiler's contract as a comp. If they franchise him in 2018, they would have to have $24M+ in cap space by the start of the 2018 league year. I doubt the Patriots are going to do either of these things, IMO. They will auction him off to the highest bidder before next year's draft, and hope to wind up with a franchise OT or a DE like Myles Garrett.

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His contract is up after 2017. In order to keep him past next year, the Patriots will have to pay him starter's money, in the neighborhood of $20M per year, using Osweiler's contract as a comp. If they franchise him in 2018, they would have to have $24M+ in cap space by the start of the 2018 league year. I doubt the Patriots are going to do either of these things, IMO. They will auction him off to the highest bidder before next year's draft, and hope to wind up with a franchise OT or a DE like Myles Garrett.

So what the hell is wrong with paying two good QBs for a year? You paid big money to have Revis for a year. We have a First to pick a BIG LOT next draft, to groom at ROT, behind Vollmer. Cassel's price went down to a Second Rounder, to find a home for a star OLB, who was no longer worth his high contract. There are still die hard "Ballmer" fans who say Unitas can still do it.

 

[The Boston Patriot]

It all depnds on Brissett and what JG wants for a contract. I'm sure BB will do the right thing. JG has been a good soldier.

 

[JMC00]

His contract is up after 2017. In order to keep him past next year, the Patriots will have to pay him starter's money, in the neighborhood of $20M per year, using Osweiler's contract as a comp. If they franchise him in 2018, they would have to have $24M+ in cap space by the start of the 2018 league year. I doubt the Patriots are going to do either of these things, IMO. They will auction him off to the highest bidder before next year's draft, and hope to wind up with a franchise OT or a DE like Myles Garrett.

Brady's contract is essentially up after 2017 as well, those 2 extra years are fake so they could spread out he signing bonus

 

[Marqui]

So what the hell is wrong with paying two good QBs for a year? You paid big money to have Revis for a year.

That's some rock-solid logic right there.

 

[fnordcircle]

Brady's going to play too many more years for us to keep him and now's the time to get good value for him.

 

[Mogamedogz]

If Garoppolo is what was saw yesterday? If that wasn't a fluke and just a preview of what he could be for the next decade? No way, no how. Good NFL QB's are about as rare as a Unicorn. You go on this one last run with #12, thank him for all he's done, and you trade him in the offseason.

I love TB12 as much as anyone. Always will. But at the end of the day, it's about the laundry. I'll still be here long after Tom's gone, and I would prefer to keep having a chance to win it every year for another decade.

You don't trade a 24yr old potential franchise QB in this league. You would never get fair value for him, because they are such a rare breed.

 

[realtime]

Keep Jimmy and trade Brady to Cinci for Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson and Dan Norman.

 

[I.M. Fletcher]

Brady's contract is essentially up after 2017 as well, those 2 extra years are fake so they could spread out he signing bonus

Comparative to his usual cap hits, but they could ride out those years pretty comfortably. He may want some extra thrown in as a parting gift, but the cap hits won't cripple the team.

His cap hits in those years would rank him 6th and 9th league wide among QBs. Not bad if those are indeed his last contrast years.

 

[I.M. Fletcher]

Depends entirely on price. Everyone is on the table in the end but Jimmy is not a guy I am actively looking to move if i am the Pats GM.

At this point what I want for Jimmy if i were to put it in math terms is about 4000+ points on the draft value chart.

If a team is not willing to give that then I am not trading and I don't take less than 4000.

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Any number of things could be worked out but the only combination I would not want with this in mind is the #1 overall pick and 2 #33 overall picks. Though it would be very possible to turn that #1 overall pick into multiple first rounders which if we did this i would want to do. The only thing I worry about is that may be letting him go too cheaply to be honest and we may regret it.

It's an interesting night conversation about worth. Draft points actually starts getting at a measurable number, which is a much more interesting question than if they should.

I think that cost is a little high, but not be a lot. As a comparable, RG3 went for just a hair over 3000, which is the amount that should make anyone consider the possibility.