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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Why kick it to him?
Why kick it to him?
Sure looked like holding to me looking at the screenshots. Nothing misleading about that. Flags are thrown lots of times on a bang-bang play that isn't obvious in real time.This was either Vinatieri’s fault for not continuing with the game plan of not kicking it to Howard or the pats coaching staff changed things up foolishly.
If you watch the actual footage, you can see there was no penalty. Those screenshots by the OP are misleading
Shabby defense in 38. But 39 they seemed to control the flow of the game. Although McNabb threw for 357 and 3 TD’s, he also threw 3 picks and 21 incompletions which the Pats defense definitely were a part of.Sure looked like holding to me looking at the screenshots. Nothing misleading about that. Flags are thrown lots of times on a bang-bang play that isn't obvious in real time.
Also you picked a couple of Super Bowls which weren't really won by defense - in one game they allowed 350+ passing yards to Donovan McNabb including 122 yards on 14 catches to a guy recovering from a broken leg and before that a record-setting QB passing performance in another one. Super Bowl 49 was offense backed up by clutch plays (the obvious one in particular) on defense. Super Bowl 53 was defense backed up by clutch plays on offense.
LOL, those of us who are older and watched it live would disagree with you. Those screenshots aren't at all misleading. Many of us felt the same way at the time and having seen Vinatieri previously drag down Hershel Walker, he had some pretty good wheels and might have had a chance to get to him or at least slow him down.If you watch the actual footage, you can see there was no penalty. Those screenshots by the OP are misleading
And it further exacerbated the situation with Parcels have a side piece stashed away in the swamps of Jersey...LOL, those of us who are older and watched it live would disagree with you. Those screenshots aren't at all misleading. Many of us felt the same way at the time and having seen Vinatieri previously drag down Hershel Walker, he had some pretty good wheels and might have had a chance to get to him or at least slow him down.
Again, what's done is done, but the decision and the non-call, as well as the outcome, had a lot of us frustrated.
That is true! Maybe I should not write off the idea he could have caught him....LOL, those of us who are older and watched it live would disagree with you. Those screenshots aren't at all misleading. Many of us felt the same way at the time and having seen Vinatieri previously drag down Hershel Walker, he had some pretty good wheels and might have had a chance to get to him or at least slow him down.
Again, what's done is done, but the decision and the non-call, as well as the outcome, had a lot of us frustrated.
I would ask Adam.LOL, those of us who are older and watched it live would disagree with you. Those screenshots aren't at all misleading. Many of us felt the same way at the time and having seen Vinatieri previously drag down Hershel Walker, he had some pretty good wheels and might have had a chance to get to him or at least slow him down.
Again, what's done is done, but the decision and the non-call, as well as the outcome, had a lot of us frustrated.
It didn't help. Bill obviously couldn't wait to get get away from Kraft. Win or lose. I suppose it's a **** move, but I know how Robert can be obstinate and obtuse (see flying elvis, FakeGates I, II, III).And it further exacerbated the situation with Parcels have a side piece stashed away in the swamps of Jersey...
To have had a chance at an upset, the '96 Pats had to do one or two things different.I'll preface by saying the 1996 and 1997 Packers were the closest to a Pro Bowl team we saw since the early 90's Cowboys. However, what we didn't know was that Brett Favre was going to become a perennial choke artist.
Had Parcells had his head in the right place, the Pats may have had a shot at an upset. On the other hand, their defense really struggled against west coast type offenses.
Tough game for Milloy I think he was the one beaten on the Freeman TD. Rison TD looked like OtisI would ask Adam.
We weren't going to get calls. That's just typical. We're the Patriots.
Sometimes we got officials who went ahead and made the right call anyway, who just did their job.
IMO our fate was sealed when the coaches decided to put the game in the big kid's hands. Trying hard is nice, but there just never was a there there with Drew. And of course I don't blame Max, either. Nobody can block White.
Our defense did its job, except for bombs to Rison & Freeman.
We had to pound them with Martin & Meggett. Dave already had a busy day, with nine returns, but it's the Super Bowl. You run Martin, you win. It's what the Cowboys did with Thomas, and they finally won one.
I was actually agreeing with you and disagreeing with the person who felt you were wrong for even thinking it might have been a penaltyThat is true! Maybe I should not write off the idea he could have caught him....