Darrelle Revis Rumors and Speculation

[jmt57]

All they talk about in NY is how THEY are in New England's head...and then they write THIS garbage. Pwned to the max.

Considering how very often Myers has something to say about the Patriots, I would say that it is safe to say that the Pats are in his head -and presumably the same hold true for those followers of his in NJ/NY.

 

[zipster9]

I would bet a good amount of this noise is coming from the Revis camp. He knows the Pats have liked him since the draft and he doesn't want to play for yet another cover 2 D Coordinator, so his agent floats the names of the two best teams in the AFC to see if he can generate some traction.

IMO - You also need to account for the fact that Talib has been injured in past 2 yrs playing for the Patriots. And, when we need him the most (AFC game), he comes up gimpy. Revis, on the otherhand, had 1 significant injury that knocked him out for 1 season. I think he still has enough in the tank. Though, I don't see the Patriots paying over 8m/yr for Revis or Talib.

 

[JoeSixPat]

I think I'd agree with you there.

I'd also consider re-signing Talib to a reasonable deal AND taking another shot in the draft as well, choosing to spend the loot on the 2nd CB somewhere else.

if the pats have the money to bring in a Darrelle Revis type player then why not push hard after T. J. Ward they can sign him and Aqib Talib for with Revis is making

One wonders if there is real interest - or if these rumors also serve a purpose when it comes to negotiations with Talib.

My feeling is that if you have added pressure up front, then you don't need to fully invest in two top tier CBs - and as good as Revis is I'd prefer to spread those salary resources among say, Talib, other secondary help, and players up front who can put pressure on the QB.

IMO that's all it really takes to be effective. That being said, I think the Patriots can handle the division with whoever they have.

When it comes to the playoffs, I might rethink whether I'd want a shut down corner like Revis on the team.

 

[supafly]

The only way I can see the Pats doing this is if Revis redoes his deal.

His current contract gives long term security if he falls off the cliff in terms of talent, but it sacrifices short term cap flexibility. Revis has no guaranteed money, he gets a $1.5 million roster bonus every year and a $13.5 million salary. Cutting him is easy because there is no dead money, but his cap hit is $15 million every year.

Now the Pats could decide to go after him for a short term solution and give him something like a $20-30 million signing bonus and cut his base salary for the next two years to $2-4 million and deal with the cap hit of cutting him in 2016 when the cap is supposed to be $150 million.

This is the only way I can see this deal getting done. It will take a lot to get it though including Revis willing to renegotiate and the Pats willing to take a big cap hit in 2016 and potentially giving up a first rounder for a two year player.

Not meaning to nitpick but Revis actually makes 16 million per year, which makes it seem even more ridiculous that Tampa Bay agreed to that amount on a year to year deal.

I can see it coming down to something like 10 million a year if/when he goes to another team, but even that seems to be too much to pay him here in my opinion.

 

[NewFeep]

Obviously it will never happen but one gets light-headed and giddy to imagine a Talib - Revis - Dennard- Arrington- Ryan grouping on a Patriots team......

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Considering how very often Myers has something to say about the Patriots, I would say that it is safe to say that the Pats are in his head -and presumably the same hold true for those followers of his in NJ/NY.

Good point. He is definitely obsessed, as are most New York NFL fans, with Belichick in particular and the Kraft-era Patriots in general. To his credit, one of the products of that obsession was a long piece in the Daily News before the SB in which he ranked TB above Peyton...a mortal sin to many of his readers.

So, in this case, my reaction when I read the article was that he was once again tweaking Jets' fans; the piece was clearly written to get a reaction from them...starts with the Broncos (remember, Peyton wouldn't even meet with Woody Johnson) and then moves in for the kill with the BB-Revis comment. Myers understands that he has to get under peoples' skin one way or the other to get click and print attention.

I read Myers' column whenever he writes. In general, while he does have to throw red meat to his subscribers and readers (and certainly has a blind spot, as do most mediots outside New England, when it comes to the truth about Spygate), he makes sense.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Not meaning to nitpick but Revis actually makes 16 million per year, which makes it seem even more ridiculous that Tampa Bay agreed to that amount on a year to year deal.

I can see it coming down to something like 10 million a year if/when he goes to another team, but even that seems to be too much to pay him here in my opinion.

I think the cash floor in the salary cap has something to do with it. They literally have to spend the money on someone.

 

[OhExaulted1]

Re: Darrelle Revis Available

If we made this move, we would definitely win the Super Bowl in Madden.

I couldn't help myself Kontra. I know we'll never get Graham, and you know Revis isn't going to wind up here, but what's life without dreams? It's all good.

 

[Kontradiction]

Re: Darrelle Revis Available

I couldn't help myself Kontra. I know we'll never get Graham, and you know Revis isn't going to wind up here, but what's life without dreams. It's all good.

Oh I'm sure this is probably less likely to happen than Graham to the Pats. Revis seems to prefer to get paid more than to play for a team that could contend for the Super Bowl right off the bat with him on the team. All the power to him. I don't begrudge anybody's right to earn as much wealth as possible in their lifetime.

 

[OhExaulted1]

Re: Darrelle Revis Available

Oh I'm sure this is probably less likely to happen than Graham to the Pats. Revis seems to prefer to get paid more than to play for a team that could contend for the Super Bowl right off the bat with him on the team. All the power to him. I don't begrudge anybody's right to earn as much wealth as possible in their lifetime.

You never know, his #'s available

 

[goheels22002]

» Over the Cap- Top NFL Contracts: Cornerback

His contract stands out like a sore thumb on the chart above.

I'd call it a "Calipari Contract" - meant to be one and done. If you want to do a one-year deal, write that contract with a guarantee that makes sense - not $16 million for a non-quarterback.

What a ridiculous deal. It makes no sense for the Buccaneers to have a contract like that hanging over them for their best defensive back, and Revis was an idiot for signing something that gives him zero leverage. The $16 million all or nothing basically makes him untradeable after the beginning of the new NFL year, and un-cuttable. Why cut a guy who your are going to pay 12% of your cap to no matter what?

It puts his deal at the front of the line for contracts to void after the season ends.

I am surprised that Roger Goodell approved this contract. It is a huge disincentive for any player or team to commit to one another for a long-term franchise plan. The Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Giants, etc would never do a deal like this.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Christopher Price @cpriceNFL

Correct me if I'm wrong, Twitter, but I just went back through contract info--it appears Pats have never paid a CB more than $10M annually.

If that's the case..i don't see them changing it for mevis

 

[supafly]

If that's the case..i don't see them changing it for mevis

Correct me if I'm wrong, but other than the franchise tag for Samuel back in 2007, when have they even gone above 7 million or so for a CB? None that I can remember.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but other than the franchise tag for Samuel back in 2007, when have they even gone above 7 million or so for a CB? None that I can remember.

ya i don't think any. This team doesn't value that position as high end as others...another reason as to why we will never see a guy like Revis in this organization

 

[TriplecHamp]

If that's the case..i don't see them changing it for mevis

CB, in terms of positional value has changed drastically since the days of Assante and Ty Law. I don't think Revis will be a patriot but Its not going to be because the Patriots don't value the position. Look at the resources used in the draft over the years at the position.

 

[mcmurtry86]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but other than the franchise tag for Samuel back in 2007, when have they even gone above 7 million or so for a CB? None that I can remember.

Ty Law had a cap hit of 10.2M in 2004. And the cap was 80M back then.

 

[mcmurtry86]

ya i don't think any. This team doesn't value that position as high end as others...another reason as to why we will never see a guy like Revis in this organization

Belichick gave Law 1/8 of the team's cap in 2004. That would be equivalent to 16.6M in 2014 cap.

But yes....they don't value it at all which is why we've never seen an elite, highly paid CB in New England under the current regime.

 

[supafly]

Ty Law had a cap hit of 10.2M in 2004. And the cap was 80M back then.

Thanks, mcmurtry86.

I remembered him signing a long term deal of significant length, and knew that we offered him something around 6.5 per year that he turned down, but I couldn't remember the cap hit at its highest.

Either way, it's obviously a very rare occasion designed for the right player and circumstance. Unfortunately, we haven't had that right player/circumstance, and I'm not as convinced as some that we currently do now either. If Talib is retained, it certainly won't be for that kind of money a la Law 2004.

 

[supafly]

I don't think Revis will be a patriot but Its not going to be because the Patriots don't value the position. Look at the resources used in the draft over the years at the position.

Valuing the position of CB by choosing to select them for cheap, rookie pacts via the draft vs. paying someone double digit millions from the outside are two different things.

I agree with you that they may "value" the position more than people give credit to, but it doesn't seem like the right circumstance of player and longer term deal has come up in the past 10 years.

Hopefully, at some point that will change, and we'll see a significant CB for the longer term, even if that isn't at 8-9 million per year AAV.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Valuing the position of CB by choosing to select them for cheap, rookie pacts via the draft vs. paying someone double digit millions from the outside are two different things.

I agree with you that they may "value" the position more than people give credit to, but it doesn't seem like the right circumstance of player and longer term deal has come up in the past 10 years.

Hopefully, at some point that will change, and we'll see a significant CB for the longer term, even if that isn't at 8-9 million per year AAV.

I was speaking more so to how much the Pats were willing to spend (draft picks or monetary wise) on the answer at corner. McCourty looked like he was the answer for a bit as a first rounder, along with Darius Butler as a second. Ras-I was essentially a 1st round pick as well although he couldn't stay on the field. BB went out and got Talib mid season and paid him 5 mil for last year alone after offering him a 5 year deal.

100% agree with the bolded, when Revis was with the Jets and clearly off the table, the draft was their best bet and thats where they spent their resources. Signing big name free agents and high draft picks are franchise altering type moves for better or for worse.