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  1. IndianPat

    IndianPat Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    What about 49ers? Sign Brady and trade JG.
     
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  2. BradyFTW!

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    I think Tom ****ing Brady is well past the point of being anyone's "binky"
     
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  3. mgcolby

    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Joke?
     
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  4. luuked

    luuked Pro Bowl Player

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    Makes senes. Should only have half a brain left after all those concussions at this point anyway.
     
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    luuked Pro Bowl Player

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    They definitely should have paid Amendola 6m a year. :rolleyes:

    The JAG receivers and TEs are getting open a plenty if only Brady would actually look at them on those occasions instead of heaving it up into double coverage to his BFF.

    LaCosse look like a solid-to-good blocker now that he is healthy. Don't believe it ? Go check the film and just focus on his blocking during run plays. You won't find much to complain.

    Why he is not used more in the catching game when he has not bad hands ? Gotta ask the guy who decides to throw the ball towards Edelman who is surrounded by 3 defenders instead of the open LaCosse in the flat ready to get a first down.


    The lengths people go to absolve Brady from blame never ceases to amaze me. He can miss a wide open player on a bad throw and somehow it will be McDaniels or the receivers fault because it is unthinkable that Brady is a human being who also makes his fair share of mistakes.

    And lets not even start about the absolute absurdity of thinking Brady is a football genius while McDaniels is an overrated fraud but for whatever reason those two seem to be happily joined at the hip. I guess Kraft and BB only wanted to spite Brady when they threw money at McD to keep him here.

    And before you respond in the typical black and white fashion claiming I blame Brady for everything let me say no I don't. As has been stated multiple times this week this is about execution failure _everywhere_ and not at one position. But that also includes the QB.
     
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    QuantumMechanic Burn it all down! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Regardless, if you are rooting for him to beat NE should he end up on another team you are declaring yourself to be a Brady fan, not a Patriots fan.

    Boy - I remember when this board would viciously mock Colts and Broncos “fans” who acted just like that re: Goober. It’s sure sad to see people here turn into (or reveal that they were all along) “fans” like those.
     
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  7. Ladypatsfan

    Ladypatsfan Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    So what's wrong with that? What are you going to do Kill people for having a different opinion than you?
    My own mother told me that she couldn't root for the Patriots if Brady is gone. Neither could
    I. I will go back to basketball with my dad.
    The Pats don't need Brady according to all of you. You have BB so the team will be just fine.
     
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  8. betterthanthealternative

    betterthanthealternative PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    All of who?
     
  9. p8ryts

    p8ryts 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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  10. ChrisR2223

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    This times 100 I can see Toms decisions and confidence in where he can fit the ball has regressed.
    He should trust the WRs who are here.
    I don’t buy that Harry and Meyers can’t win 1 on 1 situations.
    The kids need more faith and confidence from Tom.
    I don’t want to stunt their development because Tom is sulking and rightfully so from now having his friend and Stud Antonio Brown.
    Whether you blame Belichick Caserio McDaniels Kraft they are all to blame to let this offense turn into the joke it’s been.
    Honestly at this point Baltimore deserves the super bowl hate to say it.
    They took a chance and hit big with Jackson we passed on him.
    That organization right now is perfectly in sinc.
    Harbaugh comments about we had to make a decision then and there if we take this kid Jackson we build the offense around him.
    They did just that that’s why it’s all working.
    I don’t know what the heck our plan was the last few drafts on offense.
    We knew Gronk could be retiring yet we did basically nothing to attempt to replace him.
    Skipped on tight end in a few deep drafts made dollar store buys in free agency.
    Drafted a receiver who doesn’t seem to match Toms strengths.
    drafted a running back in the first who looks inferior to most backs who I’ve seen in the mid rounds as well as a few undrafted gems.

    I pray Stidham is a franchise guy because if not we are so set back not to mention wasting a second round pick on Sanu who is 30 when we could of made up with Brown or signed Dez or Crabtree for free and I’d didn’t want Crabtree but I made it clear I didn’t want any part of Sanu.
    This front office by stroke of bad luck such as our presumed starting tackle deciding he didn’t want to play receivers being cut left and right out of camp and OTAs that Brady didn’t spend all the time he could to get on the same page as guys.
    These are front office mistakes as well as you Have to blame Belichick Judge and Brady for the WRs not developing.
    Yet our friend across the coast Jimmy G looks like him and Samuel have been on the same team for years and Jimmy trusts him.
    Only have 2 losses is a product of playing very weak offenses by our very good not great defense.
    As we’ve seen our same concerns we all had on D which we Mainly Roberts High and Bentley in space and in coverage is still a gaping gap.
    Buff started to take advantage of that and Baltimore drew up the blueprint on it which a team like Houston executed to perfection.
    Does anyone Really think we beat Seattle?
    San Fran?
    I’m willing to bet we lose to Tennessee or Buff in the playoffs with the product we have been given.
    For once Tom isn’t the solution he is part of the problem.
    It’s a very costly expensive problem especially since we have squandered so much draft capital.

    Glass half full side
    If anyone can fix this it’s BB but he needs to take over this offense or at the very least work alongside Josh and Tom.
    Bringing back AB would go a long way but I don’t think that can happen.
    So everything needs to be re-evaluated everything player every position every play.
    Go back to basics on Offense maybe we just let the kids make plays he’ll that’s what Harry has always done when the ball is in the air and he’s not getting the chance to display his strengths.
    Next season will be a very difficult time for 90 percent of fans I will be in the 10 percent who will welcome and be excited by the many changes which are to come.
     
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    QuantumMechanic Burn it all down! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    You can be sick of it, but since it’s probably coming from Brady or Yee, you probably shouldn’t dismiss it.
     
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    Todd Bradley In the Starting Line-Up

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    Tell Tom that. He clearly disagrees with your incorrect assessment.
     
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    Click click click.

    It's just a bunch of presumptuous postering that will get swept under the rug as did with his "rift" bologna.

    " and while the two sides smoothed things over nicely before the 2018 season,"

    Rift gone. :eek:


    Next?
     
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    condon84 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    There's a lot of those types of fans. LeBron for instance has fans that follow him but they're not really fans of the team.

    I don't know how big a contingent of these fans are in Patriot fandom when it comes to Brady, but they're certainly becoming clearer who they are.
     
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    borg PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    68 degrees and Sunny
    No Brookline residents sucking the joy out of life
     
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    oceansizer Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    IMO there is nothing wrong with rooting for the team and a particular player at the same time. Brady is someone special to me,someone who has changed the Pats organisation. If Tom retires I am fine with IT,if he chooses to change the team I am gonna understand his decision and definitely support him and his new team ( maybe except Ravens,Colta,Jest or Giants ).
    However Patriots is and still will be my number one choince no matter what Tom will decide to do.
     
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    sb1 Pro Bowl Player

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    Brady will be a Patriot next year imo.

    But we saw Joe Montana in a Chiefs uniform. So to me it’s not that unthinkable that Brady could one day be in another uniform too is it?
     
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    farn Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    I’m with you, QM.

    I’d not be surprised if Brady signs with NE. But, increasingly, I think the possibility of him being the 2020 QB is decreasing.

    Maybe the run heavy offense we saw at the end of last season should have been our head’s up. There are still plenty of times that Brady is making the play. Dropped balls & poor protection have hurt the team.

    To dismiss that Brady is part of the problem is blind faith.
     
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    slash83 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Is it happening yet?
     
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    So many rules and regulations necessary to be considered proper Patriots fan.
    I believe Joey from Somerville is caretaker of the Pats Fans bylaws.
     

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