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  1. Ras-IR Dowling

    Ras-IR Dowling Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Bradys status in the New England region won’t change. Yeah the initial shock of him leaving stung but as time moves on that will evaporate. The closest situation to this would be Montana going to kc in 93. Has that hurt his status in the Bay Area after retirement? No, he’s still considered a hero/legend over there.

    TB loves the game and has made it clear he wants to play as long as possible. He’s earned that right. Now both sides have taken the high road but it’s pretty clear BB was only willing to commit to TB on a year to year basis after the 2018 season. And I don’t blame him as TB is already past the point of when QBs are done. It’s obvious the Bucs wanted TB more with their multiyear contract. They guaranteed he would be playing till he was done with his age 44 season. TB has earned the right to go out on his terms.
     
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  2. FreeTedWilliams

    FreeTedWilliams Praying for SammyBlue Cat PatsFans.com Supporter

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    If you want to know why Brady left, check out this brutally honest appraisal of the Pats WR corps from Rotoworld...


    Wide Receiver: Viewed as one of the main reasons for Brady’s departure is the Patriots’ utter lack of pass-catching talent. Julian Edelman turns 34 next month and has been tossed around in trade rumors. Mohamed Sanu was a bad acquisition for a second-round pick last year and promptly suffered a high-ankle sprain, requiring surgery. N’Keal Harry missed the first half of the season on I.R. and made no noise after coming off the list. Jakobi Meyers was a preseason sensation but also made some rookie mistakes. Damier Byrd is merely a deep threat. As bad as this team needs wideout help, tight end could use just as much upgrading this spring.
     
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    Wrong.
     
  4. Sfpat

    Sfpat In the Starting Line-Up

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    To set the record straight, the Pats do not have an "utter lack of pass-catching talent" and Sanu was not a "bad acquisition". Sanu had double digit receptions in his only game prior to spraining his ankle. Edelman was injured all year As stated, Harry missed the first half of the season. Meyers was a rookie. The talent is there. Last year was just one of those years. If Brady doesn't/couldn't see the talent, he is the issue
     
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    Excuses, excuses...
     
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    Koma In the Starting Line-Up

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    In terms of trash talk, the whole thing with Burress and Brady was pretty benign:



    Brady's initial response isn't even that the Patriots were going to win, just that they'd score more in a losing effort than Burress predicted. Considering the Patriots had, at the time, the highest scoring offense in history, that's not an unreasonable response.

    I don't think this motivated the Giants any more than they already were. They had been hearing they that they were going to lose for two weeks. Plus, they arrived at the Super Bowl in black suits, stating they were going to attend a funeral for the Patriots. This isn't like Welker's foot jokes, where the Jets turned that into "These guys are making fun of Coach's wife" and extra motivation.
     
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    Not sure which Giant it was (Osi?) who said the Giants defense was “seeing red” when they heard this comment. It didn’t help. Especially the crack about “is Plax going to play defense?” - what does that say to the defensive players they already have. I have a really good idea what Rodney Harrison and Bruschi would think about a comment like this if it was another team’s QB back in the day.

    Anyway the point is people say Belichick has a huge ego. I agree and clearly Tom has a huge ego too. Also explains his comments on why he left.
     
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  8. dreighver

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    Couldn't you say the same thing about Brady? Not that his excuses are invalid, but they're still excuses.

    He seemed to mail in the 2nd-half of last season and mentally check out at points, presumably because of the lack of receiving talent and the AB situation.

    I don't blame him for wanting to play in an explosive, talented offense for his latter few seasons, but he lost the thread/thesis of the Patriots' program last season in a way that sort of surprised me.
     
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    Were you a drama major.. ? The only thing thrown away are maybe your Brady undies... If you want comparison look at Willi mcguinest. Or Joe Montana. They are always remembered with their Superbowls and their great years.

    Brady is different only in his longevity which gives him these bonus years. It is unprecedented so it gets a little kooky,. 50 mil guaranteed. Think about that. One thing about Belichick is he's not really kooky. He has a lifetime of experience to answer to.

    The odds are against a 43, 44 ish guy playing QB with success in the NFL. It's kooky but it will be fun to watch. Again it is a bonus on top of his epic career. There is no way 20 years and 6 SBs can be diminished in any way. His career is as close to perfect as possible including this semi retirement senior tour in Florida. IMO.
     
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    I know, right? Every time they show a Michael Jordan flashback moment, it’s always with the Wizards. The city of Chicago never forgave him.
     
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    Threw it all away? I think for Brady the "it" includes more. He has said he has more to prove and I think he saw that he wouldn't have a real chance for that in New England. The handwriting was on the wall. Time will tell if he got what he was looking for with Tampa bay but its clear to me that at age 42 a couple more years is a big, big deal to him. Not moving on he's probably more likely to be asking in a couple years was staying put worth it as he wonders what could have been.
     
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    People of LA were way too emotional about Kobe and some people are being too emotional about Brady.

    I’m so thankful both for (1) what Brady accomplished to lead the team I root for win and (2) a coach / GM like Belichick who doesn’t waste time crying over the comings and goings of players while unemotionally running a good program for the team I root for.

    « Team I root for » - not « stranger I worship ».
     
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    How do you like like Brady’s new uniforms? Bucs turn back the clock to 1997.

     
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    Probably the best set of uniforms they had during their existence. Still, I really wish they went back to the creamsicles; someone needs to be unique and memorable out there......
     
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    Why not have creamsicle as a alternate jersey? You don’t need the helmet. See what the Broncos did.
     
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    I get it, like how SF has disowned Joe Montana.

    And how Babe Ruth was disowned by New York.
     
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    I gotta say... like a lot of folks here I've been getting ready for this since he was given the little deals since the Garapollo (sp.?) situation.

    I have to say that true to character, the Pats strung TB out, and it's sort of in line with what they do. Tom left. No mind reading. He's gone. Maybe they could have made the money appear to show their respect, maybe not. Maybe they really were surprised, maybe not.

    I can't see how we'll ever owe any player the fan debt we own TFB for the last 20 years or so, but the next season they play isn't any of those. Assuming there is a next season.

    I'm a little upset that I'm seeing Bucs jersey art, and the alarm clock numbers are gone. I wonder if that was a contract condition.

    Anyway... he gets to play Atlanta 2x per year now. He should just for fun get down 28-3 to them every time then do it again, and again, and again.

    But what I'd really love to see is Tom fail in TB, not because I no longer like him... actually, I like what he did, who he is is no. 1 mainly a mystery, and no. 2, sort of toxic in some ways...

    Ahem not because I no longer like him, but because it would mean that he really wasn't all that, and it really was a matter of a good accurate QB buying the system.

    If that's the bar we have to meet, life looks good. "Tom Brady? System Quarterback."

    Pipedream. Bass ackward pipedream at that. But that's where I am now. Thanks Tom. You mighta been right in leaving, mighta been wrong, realistically, neither makes any sense. You pursued your interest, and I dont doubt for a minute that you denied yourself that many times in the past. K thx bai.

    We're moving on now. And I want a plague-postponed 2020 season to cut his post-Pats longevity in half and show him what the Lord thinks about TFB playing anywhere but in NE.
     
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  18. 1960Pats

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    Not to mention that while TB Sr was dealing with his wife's cancer he also had to deal with his son being mistreated by the NYFL.
     
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  19. 1960Pats

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    That depends on what he meant by "much." I know that when it comes to talking to our kids, my wife and I have very different definitions of the word.
     
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    Maybe TB was desperate. The Pats didn't seem to want him.
     
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