Bills FA CB Stephon Gilmore signs 5-year deal w/New England

[Brady_to_Moss]

Oh no.

Would hate this

 

[Love The Drake]

I agree. I think Butler for Cooks is a win for the Saints. Butler is a better CB than Cooks is a WR. Butler is with more.

If Cooks was 3 inches taller he would be the most sought after receiver in the NFL

 

[Froob]

They are ehh about it...they are more arguing about their cap space it seems

Is he known as an elite corner? I knew he could play but didn't think he was a 14+ guy.

 

[manxman2601]

A slight downgrade, but nothing dramatic.

 

[Froob]

Would hate this

Maybe he'll walk off the field in November and get cut?

 

[Ring 6]

Chung's number is small ($3.8m) for 2018
McCourty's $12m and $13.5m for '18 and '19

It's not an issue.

Sure it's an issue.
You can still do what you proposed but the question is whether it's wise.
1/3 of the cap in the secondary isn't a great plan.

 

[AtomicDawg]

I think he meant BB. Saints want more and BB is not offering enough for Butler.

Question: After 4 pm can BB still trade Butler? Has to be before, correct?

Yes he can trade after 4...that's when it begins.

 

[Froob]

A slight downgrade, but nothing dramatic.

PFF tho lol. May as well compare Madden ratings.

 

[Joey007]

I agree. I think Butler for Cooks is a win for the Saints. Butler is a better CB than Cooks is a WR. Butler is with more.

Exactly, I would take it in a heartbeat if I were them.

Offense has been far from their biggest issue the last few years. It's been their putrid defense. Getting Butler would be a huge move for them.

 

[BobDigital]

He is an RFA. That makes a difference. You ttade player and contact and butler comes with the dynamic that you either pay him big money or it's a 1 year deal.
Giving our first and getting their second is only a trade down of about a dozen spots.

Yeah but Butler about the 5th best CB and Cooks is about the 20th best WR. That is a drop in overall talent so you would think that offsets contracts somewhat. IF equal players sure I'd agree but they are not equal.

I don't think it makes it a horrible move (cause you get Cooks for 10M for 2 years) but I would say the Saints slightly won the trade.

 

[Bruins29]

A slight downgrade, but nothing dramatic.

Plus consider the teams they were on, who was coaching them, who the safetys were behind them. and one of them faced TB 2x a year.

 

[Ring 6]

A slight downgrade, but nothing dramatic.

Those numbers say gilmore was better. However it's PFF so it's useless.

 

[Tony2046]

A slight downgrade, but nothing dramatic.

They had Gilmore ranked 3rd in the league in 2015. FWIW.

 

[upstater1]

I don't like this at all, my cousin is a bills fan and when we talk cb he always tells me gillmore doesn't have half the compete level of butler.

I'm really unhappy if we pay Gilmore and lose butler.

Butler > Gilmore by a mile.

 

[manxman2601]

PFF tho lol. May as well compare Madden ratings.

It's like pavlov's dogs.

 

[Wheelman]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Bill, what are you doing?!?!?!

 

[Ring 6]

Yeah but Butler about the 5th best CB and Cooks is about the 20th best WR. That is a drop in overall talent so you would think that offsets contracts somewhat. IF equal players sure I'd agree but they are not equal.

I don't think it makes it a horrible move (cause you get Cooks for 10M for 2 years) but I would say the Saints slightly won the trade.

that is all opinion

 

[patfanken]

Ryan Hannable had an interesting suspicion -- Butler and NE #1 (#32 overall) for Cooks and NO #2 (#42 overall).

Ryan Hannable is just pulling sh!t out of his ass. There is NO WAY the Pats trade the 32 for Cooks, let alone Butler and a pick. That would be LUDICROUS. God, for a F*cking WR,

 

[PF_SU]

Those numbers say gilmore was better. However it's PFF so it's useless.

No, the numbers say Butler was significantly better.

 

[AtomicDawg]

I haven't been this afraid to take a shower since I saw Mars Attacks as a kid. Please no more first day dramatics.