BGC 2023 OT/PTP Thread

[upstater1]

I know this is the OT thread but there's been some talk about CBs. Witherspoon and Gonzalez seem to have the athletic ability to deserve a top 15 pick. I see some people throwing Joey Porter in there but he really doesn't have the same speed. He is tough, gritty, smart, hard tackler, a leader. But he lacks top end speed. He's an Aqib Talib type but w/ better character. He'll mess up defenses, but he can be burned easily. I believe Talib was a 4.45-4.5 40 type when he came out. And I expect Porter to run around there.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I know this is the OT thread but there's been some talk about CBs. Witherspoon and Gonzalez seem to have the athletic ability to deserve a top 15 pick. I see some people throwing Joey Porter in there but he really doesn't have the same speed. He is tough, gritty, smart, hard tackler, a leader. But he lacks top end speed. He's an Aqib Talib type but w/ better character. He'll mess up defenses, but he can be burned easily. I believe Talib was a 4.45-4.5 40 type when he came out. And I expect Porter to run around there.

I am wondering how well Witherspoon will run. Everyone's valuations might change after the combine because the 40 is still important for WR and CB.

 

[jays52]

I am wondering how well Witherspoon will run. Everyone's valuations might change after the combine because the 40 is still important for WR and CB.

Let's pray he has bad testing so he lasts until 14.

 

[captain stone]

Matthew Bergeron. Elite run blocker. Needs more consistency in pass protection. That scares off some teams.

Matthew Bergeron Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

Klemm, with proper Dante-like coaching, you could turn this young man into an above average OT.

He's somebody I hope is still available at #76 if we haven't addressed LT before then.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

He's somebody I hope is still available at #76 if we haven't addressed LT before then.

Bergeron is a guard at the next level

 

[State]

Bergeron is a guard at the next level

A great one.

Can we have him at LG and move a bulked up Cole Strange out to LT?

 

[State]

I love Jaelyn Duncan at LT and a Matthew Bergeron at RT in the draft.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I am wondering how well Witherspoon will run. Everyone's valuations might change after the combine because the 40 is still important for WR and CB.

I think he probably plays a little faster than he'll time. I heard Corn Elder's name brought up and it makes sense. Physical, balls 100 mph every snap but runs 4.5. Not the biggest, arms a little small.

We'll see what happens. I like the prospect a lot though. Just have to see what happens.

 

[State]

Jaelyn Duncan Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

“Lack of length”? A 6’6” guy with arms 33 5/8”?

Are you kidding me?

This I know. Jaelyn Duncan was a four year starter at LT in the Big Ten and is very athletic.

Some seasoning with Jerod Mayo’s brother in the weight room will be great.
Our future at LT? I hope so. Apparently good value with this guy. A first round talent available in a later round.

 

[AQPE]

Those of us hoping for a LT1 from this draft need to accept that there are no “plug and play” prospects for that position and if there were they would be long gone by #14. Teams I expect to be in the market for a young LT include Atlanta, Chicago, Tennessee, and the Jete. I am continuing to hold to my belief therefore that there will be at least 2 gone by #14 and wouldn’t be shocked by 3 being off the board - Johnson, B. Jones, Wright, and Harrison are the guys I’m guessing at here

I’m thinking the same way about CB and WR.

So for me it’s BPA time but it won’t infuriate me to see a trade down in Round 1 to a get a couple of Day 2 picks. Any of Bergeron, Duncan, and Freeland would work for me on Day 2. All of them are far from perfect but with the new coaching I will have hope.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Those of us hoping for a LT1 from this draft need to accept that there are no “plug and play” prospects for that position and if there were they would be long gone by #14. Teams I expect to be in the market for a young LT include Atlanta, Chicago, Tennessee, and the Jete. I am continuing to hold to my belief therefore that there will be at least 2 gone by #14 and wouldn’t be shocked by 3 being off the board - Johnson, B. Jones, Wright, and Harrison are the guys I’m guessing at here

I’m thinking the same way about CB and WR.

So for me it’s BPA time but it won’t infuriate me to see a trade down in Round 1 to a get a couple of Day 2 picks. Any of Bergeron, Duncan, and Freeland would work for me on Day 2. All of them are far from perfect but with the new coaching I will have hope.

The JETE pick is most.likely GB (for A Rodgers). Changes the LT prediction possibly.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

A great one.

Can we have him at LG and move a bulked up Cole Strange out to LT?

Cole “the” strange “pick” is our starting center starting in 2024.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Cole “the” strange “pick” is our starting center starting in 2024.

Much more likely to be moved to Center than to LT.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

BGC. They say OT and CB are deep in this draft
At pick 14.
Is there more value at OT or CB knowing we can get the other position in the 2nd round

 

[State]

Darnell Wright is a first-rounder. Mark my words. Smart, unselfish (moved to RT at team’s request), and size.

 

[captain stone]

Darnell Wright is a first-rounder. Mark my words. Smart, unselfish (moved to RT at team’s request), and size.

But is he an NFL-caliber starting Left Tackle?

Because if he isn't, then I don't want him; not at 14 certainly.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

But is he an NFL-caliber starting Left Tackle?

Because if he isn't, then I don't want him; not at 14 certainly.

Ballinger is argueing Wright is a LT. I don't know. The question is why did Tennessee ask Wright to move from LT to RT?

 

[jays52]

Ballinger is argueing Wright is a LT. I don't know. The question is why did Tennessee ask Wright to move from LT to RT?

Because he could play both and they didn't have a guy who could play right. Watch him against Will Anderson. He was outstanding vs NFL level competition.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Because he could play both and they didn't have a guy who could play right. Watch him against Will Anderson. He was outstanding vs NFL level competition.

I'd be okay with a double-dip of Darnells for our first two picks.

 

[jays52]

I'd be okay with a double-dip of Darnells for our first two picks.

Same. I'd be stoked.