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Did the Patriots move to a higher level by the last quarter of the season (weeks 13-16)?

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crawhammer

On the Game Day Roster
Belichick actually said this yesterday:

"We worked hard throughout the course of the year to improve, to try to move to a higher level, which we did."

That is a lie. A bald-faced lie. Prime example of Belichick believing the media and fan base will not push back on his nonsense. I'm here to push back.

The team got worse by the last quarter of the season.

1st quarter (weeks 1-4):

Record 2-2

They beat Miami who finished 10-6.
They beat Las Vegas who finished 8-8.
They lost a close game at Seattle and were competitive with KC until the 4th quarter.
Promising start to the season for the most part; they could have been 3-1 had they not missed on two makeable plays at the end of the Seattle game.

2nd quarter (weeks 5-8):

Record 1-3

Bad quarter.
Two awful home losses back-to-back against Denver and SF; Cam was brutal in both games. Opposing quarterbacks (Lock and Garoppolo) threw 0 TD's and 4 INT's however Patriots quarterbacks offset it with 0 TD's and 6 INT's (Cam 5 and Stidham 1).
Then they lost a close game at Buffalo with Cam fumbling in the red zone on the final drive.
Beat the Jets which is of minimal significance (although they were fortunate to win the game).
The run defense got completely steamrolled in this quarter of the season. Even still, with competent quarterback play, or certainly had Brady stayed, they could have at least flipped their record to 3-1.

3rd quarter (weeks 9-12):

Record 3-1

Beat Baltimore, Arizona and LA Chargers. Couldn't stop Watson in the loss to Houston.
They caught Baltimore in a mid-season slump (going 1-4) and Arizona's season went in the toilet (3-6) after a hot start. LAC were 3-9 after losing to the Patriots. Still, this was the Patriots best quarter of the season.

4th quarter (weeks 13-16):

Record 1-3

They lost all momentum established in the 3rd quarter of the season. They couldn't stop the run against the LA Rams or Miami (who were without their three best skill position players). Cam was brutal against the LAR, contributing a pick-6. They could only muster 4 FG's against Miami.
They couldn't stop anything against Buffalo when they quit by halftime and got thoroughly embarrassed in primetime. Out coached and out played in all phases of the game. The week 16 loss to Buffalo was their most inept performance of the season as Buffalo toyed with them from start to finish.
Their worst three game stretch of the season squandered any chance of a postseason bid. They were noncompetitive in the three losses as they lost by average score of 28-8 and managed only one touchdown to go along with six FG's.
Beat the Jets in a meaningless game against a team with a roster worse than theirs and a lame duck coach.
This was their worst quarter of the season.

So, correction Bill, your team did not improve or move to a higher level in the last quarter of the season. In fact, your team was awful. Belichick is either in massive denial or a liar. Considering he stands on the sideline, and bore-witness to the December implosion, I'm going with the latter.
 

1960Pats

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Belichick actually said this yesterday:

"We worked hard throughout the course of the year to improve, to try to move to a higher level, which we did."

That is a lie. A bald-faced lie. Prime example of Belichick believing the media and fan base will not push back on his nonsense. I'm here to push back.

The team got worse by the last quarter of the season.

1st quarter (weeks 1-4):

Record 2-2

They beat Miami who finished 10-6.
They beat Las Vegas who finished 8-8.
They lost a close game at Seattle and were competitive with KC until the 4th quarter.
Promising start to the season for the most part; they could have been 3-1 had they not missed on two makeable plays at the end of the Seattle game.

2nd quarter (weeks 5-8):

Record 1-3

Bad quarter.
Two awful home losses back-to-back against Denver and SF; Cam was brutal in both games. Opposing quarterbacks (Lock and Garoppolo) threw 0 TD's and 4 INT's however Patriots quarterbacks offset it with 0 TD's and 6 INT's (Cam 5 and Stidham 1).
Then they lost a close game at Buffalo with Cam fumbling in the red zone on the final drive.
Beat the Jets which is of minimal significance (although they were fortunate to win the game).
The run defense got completely steamrolled in this quarter of the season. Even still, with competent quarterback play, or certainly had Brady stayed, they could have at least flipped their record to 3-1.

3rd quarter (weeks 9-12):

Record 3-1

Beat Baltimore, Arizona and LA Chargers. Couldn't stop Watson in the loss to Houston.
They caught Baltimore in a mid-season slump (going 1-4) and Arizona's season went in the toilet (3-6) after a hot start. LAC were 3-9 after losing to the Patriots. Still, this was the Patriots best quarter of the season.

4th quarter (weeks 13-16):

Record 1-3

They lost all momentum established in the 3rd quarter of the season. They couldn't stop the run against the LA Rams or Miami (who were without their three best skill position players). Cam was brutal against the LAR, contributing a pick-6. They could only muster 4 FG's against Miami.
They couldn't stop anything against Buffalo when they quit by halftime and got thoroughly embarrassed in primetime. Out coached and out played in all phases of the game. The week 16 loss to Buffalo was their most inept performance of the season as Buffalo toyed with them from start to finish.
Their worst three game stretch of the season squandered any chance of a postseason bid. They were noncompetitive in the three losses as they lost by average score of 28-8 and managed only one touchdown to go along with six FG's.
Beat the Jets in a meaningless game against a team with a roster worse than theirs and a lame duck coach.
This was their worst quarter of the season.

So, correction Bill, your team did not improve or move to a higher level in the last quarter of the season. In fact, your team was awful. Belichick is either in massive denial or a liar. Considering he stands on the sideline, and bore-witness to the December implosion, I'm going with the latter.
Do we know what Bill makes for a salary? I thought he was in the 7-10 mil a year range but I heard this morning that he's north of 20 mil. I think that would make him the highest paid HC/GM by a large amount.
 

luuked

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The cardinal mistake you are making is trying to imply that the outcome of games is a sound basis to evaluate the performance of players or a team. Outcomes are not a statement on performance, they never have been and never will.

So congratulations on wasting about 4 paragraphs pointlessly coming up with some kind of evaluation that is designed to fit your biases but contains nothing insightful or relevant to the actual question if the team improved.
 

amfootball

In the Starting Line-Up
Bill has been talking out of his ass all year and it is really getting annoying. The "sold out" nonsense and all his other crap now this nonsense after going 1-3 and getting depantsed on national TV by the new AFC East champ.
He has become a completely different person. He is one big excuse making machine. I always knew he was an ego maniac and hates losing but I never imagined he would be this thin-skinned one season after losing Brady.
 

sb1

Pro Bowl Player
Bill has been talking out of his ass all year and it is really getting annoying. The "sold out" nonsense and all his other crap now this nonsense after going 1-3 and getting depantsed on national TV by the new AFC East champ.
Valid or not, I don't want to hear the same excuses to justify 5-11 next year if that happens. The best before date for excuses was last Sunday.

Just fix it or have a plan to do that and all will be well.
 

Pat the Pats Fan

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
2020 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
He went 5-11 his first year with the Pats, then went on an incredible run, winning every year, competing for the Lombardi.
He went 7-9 this year, so he should have less work to do, to go on another incredible run. ;)
 

jdlboot14

Practice Squad Player
He has become a completely different person. He is one big excuse making machine. I always knew he was an ego maniac and hates losing but I never imagined he would be this thin-skinned one season after losing Brady.
I've been calling out his stubborn ego for a few years now. It shows up in obvious places where most fans want to bury their head in his ass just because we've won a lot. But, with things like this, eventually they cause enough ego-driven decisions to hurt the team. So, the standard line he gives, "we'll do what is best for the football team", is clearly not always the case. He has black lists, he has personal vendettas, and he certainly has doghouses that are like eternal prisons! He benched Butler the entire SB to punish him for a minor issue while allowing Rowe to give up a dozen huge plays that ultimately cost a SB win. Was that best for the football team?
And now, we know he feels the debate about Brady being the source of his success - he's liable to go down every opposite path to try to prove his individual legacy while potentially sinking the team. I am concerned.
 

crawhammer

On the Game Day Roster
The cardinal mistake you are making is trying to imply that the outcome of games is a sound basis to evaluate the performance of players or a team. Outcomes are not a statement on performance, they never have been and never will.

So congratulations on wasting about 4 paragraphs pointlessly coming up with some kind of evaluation that is designed to fit your biases but contains nothing insightful or relevant to the actual question if the team improved.
I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings?

So WFT! are you talking about? I'm pretty sure the point of playing the games is to win them so yes the scoreboard matters. I also provided supportive data to sustain my conclusions.

They had their three worst performances of the season consecutively in December. No coincidence they also lost those three games. So their performances sucked and they lost. Seems to be correlated. You are the one wasting time with your ridiculous comments that are nonsensical. So congratulations.
 

Boston Boxer

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BB can do no wrong. He has given us more than any other coach/GM has in the history of Boston sports other than maybe Red Auerbach.

Dont turn into Boston media and run him out of town. Be thankful
 

chasa

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
BB can do no wrong. He has given us more than any other coach/GM has in the history of Boston sports other than maybe Red Auerbach.

Dont turn into Boston media and run him out of town. Be thankful

He benched Butler for the superbowl and our defense gave up a record number of points.
 

Boomer B

In the Starting Line-Up
Do we know what Bill makes for a salary? I thought he was in the 7-10 mil a year range but I heard this morning that he's north of 20 mil. I think that would make him the highest paid HC/GM by a large amount.
I heard that also. He is the only coach north of $20m per year.
 

upstater1

Pro Bowl Player
I've been calling out his stubborn ego for a few years now. It shows up in obvious places where most fans want to bury their head in his ass just because we've won a lot. But, with things like this, eventually they cause enough ego-driven decisions to hurt the team. So, the standard line he gives, "we'll do what is best for the football team", is clearly not always the case. He has black lists, he has personal vendettas, and he certainly has doghouses that are like eternal prisons! He benched Butler the entire SB to punish him for a minor issue while allowing Rowe to give up a dozen huge plays that ultimately cost a SB win. Was that best for the football team?
And now, we know he feels the debate about Brady being the source of his success - he's liable to go down every opposite path to try to prove his individual legacy while potentially sinking the team. I am concerned.

You picked a single decision in 20 years of coaching.

It's not hard to do.

Here, I can give you a few more: benching Welker for a half for the Rex-I-like-to-watch-my-wife-with-bums-foot-fetish-fiasco press conference.

I'm sure I can think of a few more.

OVER 20 YEARS!

But here's what we don't know (& I even agree that the decision not to play Butler lost us the Super Bowl): if Bill didn't have strict punishment for breaking rules, would the team have stayed in line for the 20 year run? You can't account for that. If he starts giving players like Butler and Welker more slack, what games are lost from player laxness?
 
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