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gobesmug

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
BB can coach until he loses. Age has nothing to do with it.
So you would rather wait until Bill is bad to replace him instead of replacing him 1 year early and avoid that fall?

Sounds like you might more of a Belicheck fan than a Pats fan if that's the case.

If Sean Payton is serious about coming back next year Kraft should be all over that. Payton at 59 next year can coach Mac Jone the next 10 years
 

RobertWeathers

Author of the Port Huron Statement
So you would rather wait until Bill is bad to replace him instead of replacing him 1 year early and avoid that fall?

Sounds like you might more of a Belicheck fan than a Pats fan if that's the case.

If Sean Payton is serious about coming back next year Kraft should be all over that. Payton at 59 next year can coach Mac Jone the next 10 years
No. If you've been a fan as long as I have when you have a good coach you hang on to him and not force him out over something stupid like his age.
True but it doesn't mean it's not a possibility.

I'm also sure Belicheck and Kraft yace discussed privately when the right time to step away should be.
Of course they have but yet you fret over it.
 

gobesmug

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
No. If you've been a fan as long as I have when you have a good coach you hang on to him and not force him out over something stupid like his age.

Of course they have but yet you fret over it.
I'm not advocating for Bill to be replaced haphazardly.

I agree that good coaching should not be discarded.

I thought the Ravens were dumb when they were seriously considering getting rid of Harbaugh and that the Eagles were dumb for getting rid of Reid.

if Belicheck was even 65 I wouldn't suggest it.

I also think it's foolish to not factor in his age when someone like Sean Payton becomes potentially available. Payton has been my 2nd favorite coach after BB since bounty gate.

So yeah, looking at solidifying the coaching position for the next 10 years sounds a lot better than taking year by year with a HC who seems more interested in hiring friends and family then hiring the best coaches.

You will never convince me that Steven Belicheck, Matt Patricia and Joe Judge were not sentimental hirings
 

RobertWeathers

Author of the Port Huron Statement
I'm not advocating for Bill to be replaced haphazardly.

I agree that good coaching should not be discarded.

I thought the Ravens were dumb when they were seriously considering getting rid of Harbaugh and that the Eagles were dumb for getting rid of Reid.

if Belicheck was even 65 I wouldn't suggest it.

I also think it's foolish to not factor in his age when someone like Sean Payton becomes potentially available. Payton has been my 2nd favorite coach after BB since bounty gate.

So yeah, looking at solidifying the coaching position for the next 10 years sounds a lot better than taking year by year with a HC who seems more interested in hiring friends and family then hiring the best coaches.

You will never convince me that Steven Belicheck, Matt Patricia and Joe Judge were not sentimental hirings
You are advocating Bill is replaced because of his age. That's pretty clear.

Fat Matt, BB Jr and Judge worked their way up on merit. They know the culture. They know what BB wants. They know the system. They were brought back because of that.

No one competent is suggesting they are the next HCs
 

rochrist

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So you would rather wait until Bill is bad to replace him instead of replacing him 1 year early and avoid that fall?

Sounds like you might more of a Belicheck fan than a Pats fan if that's the case.

If Sean Payton is serious about coming back next year Kraft should be all over that. Payton at 59 next year can coach Mac Jone the next 10 years
Peyton is extraordinarily overated.
 

signbabybrady

Pro Bowl Player
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Answer this question.

Why is it fair to say Brady didn't deserve an extension because no QB ever excelled into their 40s, despite the fact Brady showed no signs of decline... but somehow you can't question Bill's age when no NFL HC has been successful into their 70s?

That makes zero sense. If no HC has been successful into their 70s then it's just as right to question
Answer this question do you think Bill is demanding Kraft lock him up until he is 75 or he will walk at the end of the season. It's not just a debate about age it's a debate about age and how early we should have locked up Brady and for how many years.
 

gobesmug

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
Answer this question do you think Bill is demanding Kraft lock him up until he is 75 or he will walk at the end of the season. It's not just a debate about age it's a debate about age and how early we should have locked up Brady and for how many years.
I'm not sure what point you are making. Since Brady was in his mid 30s fans on this site have loved talking about finding Brady's replacement. I think it's time we talk about Bill's future replacement which is coming sooner than later
 

signbabybrady

Pro Bowl Player
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I'm not sure what point you are making. Since Brady was in his mid 30s fans on this site have loved talking about finding Brady's replacement. I think it's time we talk about Bill's future replacement which is coming sooner than later
I'm saying that with Brady it wasn't just about letting him play in his forties he wanted us to commit until 45 for several years before his contract was up. When we didn't give it to him he decided a year early he was gone. There is no evidence Bill is trying to hold Kraft to 75 so I think its wise to make sure we don't move on from Bill too early.
 

Lagaffe_07

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I always find it funny when people were advocating the « better one year early than one year too late » when Bill was using it to get rid of players but act like they are outrage when people suggest that the owner could use the same approach regarding his HC.

It all depends on how many years Bill told Kraft he would coach. If Bill assured Kraft that he will coach 5+ more years then fine.

But if for example Kraft know Bill will coach only 2 more years. With a coach like Payton potentially available and if you can get him the question is worth asking.

What’s best for the football team?

2 years of Bill or 5-10 years of Payton?
 

sb1

Hall of Fame Poster
Not sure why everyone assumes that the Patriots will have to turn to Patricia or Judge if Bill retires soon and they don’t have any alternatives to Bill. There are plenty of good candidates throughout the league if the Pata decide to make a change. Pats could have their pick of a defensive guy like Bill (maybe even Flores?) or go for a change in philosophy and get someone who knows offense.


This doesn’t include Josh or Kingsbury. Neither would be bad choices. IMO.

Also the Pats could keep Bill with the team in personnel - I’d rather they didn’t but they could. Or get a GM with their new coach.
 
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captain stone

Hall of Fame Poster

Also the Pats could keep Bill with the team in personnel - I’d rather they didn’t but they could. Or get a GM with their new coach.

I wouldn't mind trying Eliot the Wolf as GM, letting him decide which staffers / scouts / coaches to keep, and getting rid of Everybody Else, including Billy's children & his adopted slappies.
 

h0c2000

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
Where was Glenn picked? Oh that's right, he was the 7th pick in the draft. How many times have the Pats drafted that high?

In the 1991 Draft the Pats had the first pick. Which in one of the worst trades ever, the Cowboys gave up 3 JAGs and the 11th and 41st picks. Which probably led to the Pats sucking the next year and getting the first pick for the 93 draft.
 

paco130

On the Roster
Not sure why everyone assumes that the Patriots will have to turn to Patricia or Judge if Bill retires soon and they don’t have any alternatives to Bill. There are plenty of good candidates throughout the league if the Pata decide to make a change. Pats could have their pick of a defensive guy like Bill (maybe even Flores?) or go for a change in philosophy and get someone who knows offense.


This doesn’t include Josh or Kingsbury. Neither would be bad choices. IMO.

Also the Pats could keep Bill with the team in personnel - I’d rather they didn’t but they could. Or get a GM with their new coach.
If we did change coaches, I'd want a new GM also.
 


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