.....And Now Florio Trying To CYA On Possibility It Was The Colts

[shmessy]

This just came out a little more than an hour ago on PFT.

Someone is now trying to cover his bases..........

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...igation-includes-whether-colts-deflated-ball/


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[Dr Pain]

The Colts GM Grigson said the Colts noticed a problem with Pats balls in November at Indy. This is a huge problem and shows he is lying. From what we have heard about the way the process works is that the reffs do their inspection and release the game balls (both teams) to the stadium staff (a Colts employee) 10 minutes before the game. Then the balls are controlled on the home team’s sideline through the game by the home team’s staff and the reffs. The Patriots would not have even touched the Patriots game balls in Indy other than when they were in play. If the Colts measured the Patriots game balls given to them by the reffs in November, is this not tampering with another team’s gameballs?

Also I wonder if the investigation is taking so long because at this point it is not about the balls being under PSI but about the Sting/no sting etc… and this would be why Brady and Bellichick were not contacted? If the NFL had evidence of the Patriots tampering then the investigation would have been over in the 3 days first promised. If there was no evidence then it could be chalked up to atmospheric conditions which show a drop (Yes the Colts balls would have been subjected to the same forces of nature but they could have been inflated coming off a colder bus luggage compartment or dropped 13.5 to 12.5 while the Patriots dropped 12.5 to 11.5, then the NFL could have ended it then. Since then we have had the Colts spoken to, the Ravens spoken to, an NFL employee fired.

I think the Colts are in trouble along with the NFL. I am glad there is an independent investigator now. Colts are sweating now. What Grigson and Kensil are saying now is not what Kravitz said he was told when it happened.

 

[sarge]

Please summarize a bit more.

I have been militant about refusing to to click on PFT or ESPN since they started this garbage.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I think the Colts are in trouble along with the NFL. I am glad there is an independent investigator now.

Don't get your hopes up too much. Wells is hardly an "independent investigator". Granted, him doing it is better than Goodell, because he has an outside-the-NFL reputation to maintain and so can't get too ridiculous with the whitewashing and is unlikely to outright lie. But he is far, far from independent.

 

[Dr Pain]

Don't get your hopes up too much. Wells is hardly an "independent investigator". Granted, him doing it is better than Goodell, because he has an outside-the-NFL reputation to maintain and so can't get too ridiculous with the whitewashing and is unlikely to outright lie. But he is far, far from independent.

Kraft is a billionaire. That will put some fear in Wells. Its not like he is trying to frame some poor kid.

 

[VectorPrime]

Please summarize a bit more.

I have been militant about refusing to to click on PFT or ESPN since they started this garbage.

I agree, someone give us a hand please.

 

[shmessy]

Please summarize a bit more.

I have been militant about refusing to to click on PFT or ESPN since they started this garbage.

Last part:

".......
If it’s true that the football obtained by the Colts was even more deflated that the rest of the footballs being used by the New England offense, it’s at least possible that one of the various people who handled the ball after Jackson brought it to the sideline removed air from it, especially in light of G.M. Ryan Grigson’s admission that the Colts alerted the NFL to concerns about deflation in the days before the AFC title game. The Colts knew that air pressure was an issue; if a rogue employee from the Patriots was capable of taking air out of the footballs, a rogue employee from the Colts may have been capable of it, too.
It doesn’t mean the Colts deflated the football. It also doesn’t mean the Colts didn’t. It means that the NFL must rule out that the ball was deflated by the Colts if the NFL plans to conclude that the Patriots did."
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Here Florio is accepting the possibility that the one ball that was described as being 2 PSi under was indeed the ball that was intercepted - the only ball that had been on the Colts sideline.

Classic case of sensing the new direction of the investigation and trying to get something down ahead of the public announcement.

 

[VectorPrime]

If the Colts go down for this, meaning are punished in any way even symbolically, this will have all been worth it.

 

[Jlaff]

PFT putting on the Patriot's Choir hat

The chain of custody necessarily was interrupted when the Colts secured possession of the football. Assuming the Colts may have deflated a football that came into the team’s possession is no less ludicrous than assuming the Patriots may have deflated it.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I think we have no choice but to say they did it. This is known felons we are taking about. This is a franchise that once threw an entire season to get the player they wanted in the draft so it's not like there is anything they won't do. I think Grigson needs to be suspended for four years and Kensil should be beheaded. And since wiping away the score of the AFCCG would be unfair to the Patriots they should all have to have 45-7 branded onto their foreheads. And that goes for Kensil as well, as he was a Colt for the day, and the brand will stick even if his head doesn't.

 

[DarrylS]

PFT putting on the Patriot's Choir hat

The chain of custody issue has always led me to believe that there is no way that can prove anything about the ball in question, if Indy checked the pressure air leaked out... so that specific ball has to be completely discounted.

Either way do not and have not believed that the Pats tried to gain competitive advantage from any action they took regarding the balls...

 

[Jim Colclough fan]

Something is up................the content and timing of the Florio piece has to give credibility that more information is coming out in the next few days and it isn't favorable to the Colts or NFL front office.

 

[Mr. Objective]

I think we have no choice but to say they did it. This is known felons we are taking about. This is a franchise that once threw an entire season to get the player they wanted in the draft so it's not like there is anything they won't do. I think Grigson needs to be suspended for four years and Kensil should be beheaded. And since wiping away the score of the AFCCG would be unfair to the Patriots they should all have to have 45-7 branded onto their foreheads. And that goes for Kensil as well, as he was a Colt for the day, and the brand will stick even if his head doesn't.

Finally, a voice of reason on this issue.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Finally, a voice of reason on this issue.

Thanks Deus.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Something is up................the content and timing of the Florio piece has to give credibility that more information is coming out in the next few days and it isn't favorable to the Colts or NFL front office.

I would sacrifice Triumph's left nut for them to have video footage of the Colts deflating the ball.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The chain of custody issue has always led me to believe that there is no way that can prove anything about the ball in question, if Indy checked the pressure air leaked out... so that specific ball has to be completely discounted.

Either way do not and have not believed that the Pats tried to gain competitive advantage from any action they took regarding the balls...

Agree completely. And next time that little ***** Grigson wants to "level the playing field" he should try borrowing Seattle's defense for the day. At least that way they will only lose 28-7.

 

[Rob0729]

Florio is the master of playing both sides of the fence to get clicks. He will troll Pats fans, Pats haters, Colts' fans, etc. with conflicting blog posts that will get all sides riled up. Pats fans think he is a Pats' hater. Pats haters think he is a Pats homer. Colts fans think their pet pig is really, really sexy today.

 

[upstater1]

While Wells has to consider that, his actual employer is NFL ownership, and not Goodell.

 

[shmessy]

I would sacrifice Triumph's left nut for them to have video footage of the Colts deflating the ball.

You're making two assumptions there.

 

[shmessy]

Florio is the master of playing both sides of the fence to get clicks. He will troll Pats fans, Pats haters, Colts' fans, etc. with conflicting blog posts that will get all sides riled up. Pats fans think he is a Pats' hater. Pats haters think he is a Pats homer. Colts fans think their pet pig is really, really sexy today.

Yes, but the tenor has changed over his last several articles on the matter.

The way to read a guy like that is to see his patterns - - it's obvious that he sees where this is heading, because his direction has most definitely changed over the past 3 weeks. He will toggle back and forth to get hits and create discussion, but (like a stock market chart) you can tell a general direction even if there is toggling.

He has good sources and, despite his obvious biases as a Steeler fan, wants to be ahead of the story correctly more than he wants to root for his team. He's a narcissist who worries about his reputation more than anything - - he doesn't want to come out of this on the wrong side. That's why his CYA's that have gotten stronger and stronger on the Pats side each couple of days is interesting.