Adam Schefter on D&C: Pats dominance no guarantee of postseason success

[MoLewisrocks]

Re: Adam Schefter on D&C..... He's Never Impressed I Guess...

Meh, we were never "dominant" in the years we won it all, according to everyone else. The year everyone agreed we WERE dominant was 2007 and that didn't turn out so well.

Bingo, Bella has bingo!!!

The media is guilty of the same thing most fans are, believing talent and it's accumulation and the hype attached to it is what dominance equates to and what wins championships when that's hardly ever been the case in this sport, and is even less likely to ever be in the age of FA and a salary cap... It only works in Fantasy Football...which is largely cumulative talent/stats driven. Stats are relatively meaningless in the version played on grass and turf... It's unselfish teamwork quite often including from unheralded players outperforming perception, and timely not to mention consistent focus and execution and exceptional coaching that wins when the chips are down, like in the playoffs and in championship games, 90% of the time. How else do you explain mega talented teams like the Chargers and Cincy and Washington and Dallas and Philly and even the Vikings and Tubby Wrecks JETS disappointing year after year and teams like Indy and Baltimore only managing one win in a decade (and a lucky one at that for Indy given the matchup with an overhyped Chicago defense behind a Rex Grossman offense).

If we make it to Dallas this year win or lose we will have made it to half of the Superbowls contended in the last decade. If that isn't the true definition of dominance in a 32 team league, I don't know what is.

 

[Joker]

Re: Adam Schefter on D&C..... He's Never Impressed I Guess...

Adam Schefter is a fairly balanced national reporter. Key word "balanced". Now if John "I Eat 50 Pizzas A Day" Tomase is blubbering or blabbering on D+C about the Pats, I may have a problem but I'll take Schefter over a bloated, lying turd like Toomassive or Tony Gasbagarrotti any day.

 

[patsox23]

Re: Adam Schefter on D&C..... He's Never Impressed I Guess...

Your title is misleading.

He is impressed.

He just says being impressive in the regular season is no guarantee of post-season success. Any one who has been rooting for the Patriots since way back in 2007, know that.

What he said. I swear, Patriots fans are so freaking sensitive. Schefter's one of the best out there, and all he was doing was offering up a realistic tonic to the over-the-top, "crown their asses" crowd. We need to take a breath.

 

[363839]

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I'm not bashing the Bears. They are a good team and I respect them. Urlacher said the Pats were a good team, but that the Bears were better. Look at his post-game presser, he certainly changed his tune.

I didn't hear about any trash talking by him after the game.
I couldn't find anything for an after game presser. If you could provide a link, it would be appreciated.

 

[MassPats38]

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I didn't hear about any trash talking by him after the game.
I couldn't find anything for an after game presser. If you could provide a link, it would be appreciated.

Must be something more recent than what he said after the game: "[The Patriots] are the best team in the NFL. . . . I don't know what I was talking about, but they came in here on our field, our weather and just pounded us. We couldn't stop them."

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

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Where I don't exactly agree is on the point where, "They are not that good".

How do we know that? The young defense is really starting to gel and play.

The offense was completely changed mid season and is now gelling.

The 2001-2004 teams were veteran stable teams. They were outstanding but there was never any real or anticipated "upside".

They were who we thought they were.

Many here thought these guys could be special. Some mediots speculated this, also.

Therefore, we should have every reason to believe they are this good. That doesn't ever mean they can't go out and not execute nor does it mean that talented teams can't put it together and win.

 

[Kid~Brady]

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Where I don't exactly agree is on the point where, "They are not that good".

How do we know that? The young defense is really starting to gel and play.

The offense was completely changed mid season and is now gelling.

The 2001-2004 teams were veteran stable teams. They were outstanding but there was never any real or anticipated "upside".

They were who we thought they were.

Many here thought these guys could be special. Some mediots speculated this, also.

Therefore, we should have every reason to believe they are this good. That doesn't ever mean they can't go out and not execute nor does it mean that talented teams can't put it together and win.

This is exactly what i said. The other stuff cool, i agree in playoffs anything is possible but to say that we arent that good.. please

 

[Kid~Brady]

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They were who we thought they were.

I can't help but see Dennis Green everytime i hear this phrase lol

 

[Deus Irae]

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“You can’t watch them and not be impressed,” he said

Either the O.P. is saying that Schefter hasn't watched the Patriots, or this is among the very worst titled threads in message board history.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Re: Adam Schefter on D&C..... He's Never Impressed I Guess...

Quote below proving he's talking out his arse...

"Added Schefter: “All I’m saying is, because they’ve been so dominant the last two weeks, they’re not that good. Not that good. Not dominant.”

Schefter predicted the Bears would knock off the Patriots last Sunday in Chicago. After the Patriots rolled to a 36-7 victory, Schefter said he’s learned his lesson. “I may not pick against the Patriots from here through the Super Bowl,” he said. “So, there’s going to be one week — maybe, maybe — when I’m wrong. Otherwise, I’ll be right every single week with this team.”

Right, so he knows that they are not that dominant despite the fact that they have been, you know, dominating top teams.

 

[FloridaPatsFan]

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Where I don't exactly agree is on the point where, "They are not that good".

How do we know that? The young defense is really starting to gel and play.

The offense was completely changed mid season and is now gelling.


Therefore, we should have every reason to believe they are this good. That doesn't ever mean they can't go out and not execute nor does it mean that talented teams can't put it together and win.

A great point was made about Belichick earlier this week...

Every week....Bill Belichick has a COMPLETELY different game plan. He does not normally try to "build on" what someone, or the team in general did the previous week....

He basically tells each player what your "job" is for this week. It won't be the same next week. His best players may not fit into "this weeks" game plan...so they don't play much. Evidenced by Brandon Meriweather playing only 14 snap last week..but BM may be in EVERY play THIS week. Or Shawn Crable playing very well against the Steelers....and then released the following week.

By doing this, he's not necessarily trying to improve on what you did well the week before...although that is the general idea. What I see him doing is throwing something different at you every week...and by this time of the season...it all starts coming together.

And hence....your not peaking too soon and the team in general does not play its best football until after thanksgiving.

I think Bill Belichick knows this team is capable of doing what they did the last 2 weeks....all the way to the SB. It's just the jounalistic idiots who are so short sighted...they can't see the forest for the trees...and notice, that this steamroller the Patriots have become was MEANT to start slowly and build momentum....exactly as planned.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

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Right, so he knows that they are not that dominant despite the fact that they have been, you know, dominating top teams.

This year's team has run the gaunlet and looks pretty focused now. I know a lot can change in three weeks and half our D Line is on the trainers table, but Bronco loving Schefter appears to be a natural waffler riding the see saw. Maybe he should have been a politican.

 

[fnordcircle]

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Yeah that punk Schefter, where does he get off saying that this team is anything but perfect?

 

[Kid~Brady]

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Either the O.P. is saying that Schefter hasn't watched the Patriots, or this is among the very worst titled threads in message board history.

Ditto! .... Lol

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

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I can't think of a better thing to hear from an opposing than "they're not as good as you think they are." That is precisely the attitude a coach needs to have his team eviscerated like Pitt, NYJ, Chicago, etc. Keep thinking that way coach, let your players know how you feel because that's exactly what Brady wants your boys thinking when he starts a game. The next sound you'll remember hearing is Tommy Boy stomping the air out of your confidence balloon before the half is even over.

Seriously, it stuns me to hear a coach say this. Doesn't he get the picture that the Pats are actually better than everyone thinks they are and that's why they're destroying so many good teams?? Hasn't he noticed that just when you think Brady has played his best he drops an all-time performance like Chicago on your head?

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

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the very worst titled threads in message board history.

Hey....

I thought I got that award in my thread about the trade for Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn.

 

[goheels22002]

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I heard Schefter this morning and it sent cold shivers down my back. He's totally correct about this. He was quoting some un-named coach not in the AFC East.

The 2007 Giants proved that someone can figure out a way to get to any team and if they keep it close, win the game. I actually thought about the 2007 regular season finale against the Giants and how they hung tough and learned a lot about the Pats. That was the precursor to the pass rush we saw in the SB that the O-line could not contain. Coughlin's a smart guy as are most (not all - REX!) of the head coaches with a legitimate shot at the playoffs.

I also agreed with Callahan when he said that the Colts and Chargers are the biggest threats if their QB gets hot and carries them against the Pats defense that has yet to show a consistent pass rush. Both Rivers and Manning kept those game too tight for comfort and lost on late turnovers.

In some way, I'd like the Patriots to get a wake up call in one of these last three to re-fuel the fire that came out of the Browns game to never take take their foot off the throttle and play all 60 minutes. I doubt that happens Sunday without Rodgers as QB for the Packers, but better now than in an early playoff round.

 

[AtivanPatsFan]

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I wouldn't overreact too much guys. Ask the 2009 Colts.

 

[TruthSeeker]

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Where I don't exactly agree is on the point where, "They are not that good".

The context was "dominant team". In other words, the Patriots are not truly a dominant team even though they have had 2 dominating games in a row.

Personally, I agree. We have a dominant offense, but an average (perhaps a little above average now) defense. Who knows, but the time the playoffs roll around we could have a clearly above average defense.

 

[jmt57]

I just edited the thread title for some clarity, and context of Schefter's comments. I figured a discussion on how the Pats recent dominance may or may not translate to success in the postseason was preferable than merging this thread with the 'national media bashing the Pats' thread.