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2nd look at Drake Maye's pre draft scouting report

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By Lance Zierlein, same guy who hit Mac Jones eval spot on
Seems pretty fair based on what we have seen so far:


Challenging evaluation with top-flight measurables and tools but inconsistencies that create a lower floor. Maye’s size and arm talent jump off the tape immediately. He can make every throw, but he will try to make throws that he shouldn’t have attempted. The gunslinger mentality creates a fearlessness that can turn into interceptions, but it will also allow him to win in tight windows and make splash throws that get crowds (and evaluators) on their feet. He leaves too many throws on the back shoulder or hip and needs to learn when to take some sauce off the throw to make it more catchable. There is an undeniable energy to Maye’s game that can create momentum or turn chaotic when plays come off-schedule for him. The combination of traits and tape make him a boom/bust prospect who might need patient management and coaching to help shepherd him toward his potential.

  • Struggles with the chess match against pressure looks.
  • Inefficient throwing motion creates inconsistencies in accuracy.
  • Receivers had to chase too many intermediate throws into the turf.
  • Leaves the ball behind crossing routes and RPO targets.
  • Can get uncomfortable when initial reads aren’t clear and clean.
  • Sixteen career interceptions were mostly earned with poor decisions or throws.
 
It still amazes me how much things changed once the Pats actually got Maye.

 
It still amazes me how much things changed once the Pats actually got Maye.

A lot of fans root for players when their team drafts them, others are in a mission to tear them down. Some people just like to wallow in failure and hope to find it everywhere they look.
Why anyone would choose a hobby that forces them to search out a way to be miserable about it is beyond me.
 

^Me, not looking at another ****ty negative thread by an overly negative poster.
 
It still amazes me how much things changed once the Pats actually got Maye.


Oh wait, you mean Sam is a whiner, troll, and one of the worst posters? Yep.
 
I saw a lot of Maye underthrowing guys in college... I actually think he's improved in that area.
 
Jeez, we knew that Maye was an unfinished product when he was drafted. He didn't have the playing experience of a Jayden Daniels or Caleb Williams and he played in an untalented and undisciplined offense his senior year.

The guy hasn't even started a full season yet. Last year was a lost season for him since he had the worst talent in the league around him and that includes the coaching.

He is going to have to be developed over time like Josh Allen was. At this point in Allen's career, Bills fans were ready to call Allen a bust and cut him. Just like many Pats fans are with Maye.

Not say Maye will ever even close to Allen. Just saying that QBs that come into the league raw like Allen and Maye have to be developed over time. They don't magically turn into good or great QBs right away. People need patience.
 
Not say Maye will ever even close to Allen. Just saying that QBs that come into the league raw like Allen and Maye have to be developed over time. They don't magically turn into good or great QBs right away. People need patience.
Elway didn't win a SB until he was 37. Manning didn't win one until he was 30. Stafford was 34. I think it's going to take some time for him to figure it out, as @RobertWeathers pointed out above, he's inexperienced.
 
It still amazes me how much things changed once the Pats actually got Maye.

By Lance Zierlein, same guy who hit Mac Jones eval spot on
Seems pretty fair based on what we have seen so far:


Challenging evaluation with top-flight measurables and tools but inconsistencies that create a lower floor. Maye’s size and arm talent jump off the tape immediately. He can make every throw, but he will try to make throws that he shouldn’t have attempted. The gunslinger mentality creates a fearlessness that can turn into interceptions, but it will also allow him to win in tight windows and make splash throws that get crowds (and evaluators) on their feet. He leaves too many throws on the back shoulder or hip and needs to learn when to take some sauce off the throw to make it more catchable. There is an undeniable energy to Maye’s game that can create momentum or turn chaotic when plays come off-schedule for him. The combination of traits and tape make him a boom/bust prospect who might need patient management and coaching to help shepherd him toward his potential.

  • Struggles with the chess match against pressure looks.
  • Inefficient throwing motion creates inconsistencies in accuracy.
  • Receivers had to chase too many intermediate throws into the turf.
  • Leaves the ball behind crossing routes and RPO targets.
  • Can get uncomfortable when initial reads aren’t clear and clean.
  • Sixteen career interceptions were mostly earned with poor decisions or throws.
Show me Allen’s and Herbert’s.
 
Wow, that scout really nailed it!

It's actually typical to see a rookie like that look a bit more natural (even in a messy offense) his first year, then be forced to develop into a pro-level offense his 2nd year and seemingly stagnate. We'll see, but we (and the organization) will have to be very patient.
 
By Lance Zierlein, same guy who hit Mac Jones eval spot on
Seems pretty fair based on what we have seen so far:


Challenging evaluation with top-flight measurables and tools but inconsistencies that create a lower floor. Maye’s size and arm talent jump off the tape immediately. He can make every throw, but he will try to make throws that he shouldn’t have attempted. The gunslinger mentality creates a fearlessness that can turn into interceptions, but it will also allow him to win in tight windows and make splash throws that get crowds (and evaluators) on their feet. He leaves too many throws on the back shoulder or hip and needs to learn when to take some sauce off the throw to make it more catchable. There is an undeniable energy to Maye’s game that can create momentum or turn chaotic when plays come off-schedule for him. The combination of traits and tape make him a boom/bust prospect who might need patient management and coaching to help shepherd him toward his potential.

  • Struggles with the chess match against pressure looks.
  • Inefficient throwing motion creates inconsistencies in accuracy.
  • Receivers had to chase too many intermediate throws into the turf.
  • Leaves the ball behind crossing routes and RPO targets.
  • Can get uncomfortable when initial reads aren’t clear and clean.
  • Sixteen career interceptions were mostly earned with poor decisions or throws.

 
Yes Maye is boom or bust. We knew that. Having dog pile coaching last season did absolutely nothing for his development so I think it's fair to call this year 1 for him. And he should have played a lot more in the preseason than he did, why he didn't I have no idea.
 
Yes Maye is boom or bust. We knew that. Having dog pile coaching last season did absolutely nothing for his development so I think it's fair to call this year 1 for him. And he should have played a lot more in the preseason than he did, why he didn't I have no idea.

Fair? Did you miss who started this (cough) thread? You know what the tenor of a Sam thread is gonna be before you click on it and fair has nothing to do with it. Stop being so reasonable and get out there on the Tobin with him instead of taking a 'Rome wasn't built in a day' approach, expand your consciousness to include Sam's viewpoint. He's not interested in building Rome, only in burning it down.
And that my man was done in a day
 
didnt care for the pick, then when he played he gave me some hope, give him a few more games and we will know the real deal, wont take long.
 
Yes Maye is boom or bust. We knew that. Having dog pile coaching last season did absolutely nothing for his development so I think it's fair to call this year 1 for him. And he should have played a lot more in the preseason than he did, why he didn't I have no idea.
It's funny how when it's convenient to you coaching matters.
 
Came for the comments to see who gets triggered.
 
Came for the comments to see who gets triggered.
The only one triggered in this thread is the OP. Which is usually the case with someone who's always negative.
I dunno maybe his Mommy didn't give him enough love as a child. Who knows?
Sam has never made me angry.
I just always feel sorry for him.
I hope he finds peace and happiness at some point.
 
Yes Maye is boom or bust. We knew that. Having dog pile coaching last season did absolutely nothing for his development so I think it's fair to call this year 1 for him. And he should have played a lot more in the preseason than he did, why he didn't I have no idea.
It's funny how when it's convenient to you coaching matters.
Yep, we can't have it both ways. We can't discredit coaches when it fits the narrative. Many players excel in the NFL with poor coaching because they just have "it". Case in point, Christian Gonzalez found a way to have an All Pro season despite the **** show. I see this excuse quite regularly on the board to defend certain players.
 
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